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CORRECTIONS OFFICER RETIREMENT PLAN
LOCAL BOARD MEETING
Oro Valley Town Hall, Kachina Room
11000 N. La Canada Drive
Thursday, September 13, 2007
CALL TO ORDER 3:00 pm
ROLL CALL OF BOARD MEMBERS
In attendance: Mayor Paul Loomis, Nancy Anderson, Dan Rhoads, Sandra Abbey, Pat
Kalahar. Also present: Joe Andrews and Carol Willett. Quorum met.
APPROVAL OF AUGUST 7, 2007 MINUTES.
Dan Rhoads made motion to approve minutes.
Sandra Abbey seconds the motion. Motion passes 5 to 0.
OPENING AND CERTIFYING OF BALLOTS FOR ELECTED BOARD MEMBERS:
Human Resources accepted nominations for two terms: one ending June 30, 2009 and
one ending June 30, 2011. There were two nominations for each of those terms: Nancy
Anderson and Dan Rhoads. Sandra Abbey sent ballots to all of the members and
included return envelopes. Twelve were returned. Sandra Abbey opened the ballots
and they were tallied by the recording secretary. For the term ending June 30, 2009 it
was in favor of Dan Rhoads 8 to 4. For the term ending June 30, 2011 it was in favor of
Nancy Anderson 8 to 4.
Mayor Loomis requested a motion to approve the canvassing of the vote as announced
by the secretary. A motion was made by Pat Kalahar; and Nancy Anderson seconded
the motion. Motion passed 5 to 0.
BUSINESS
Mayor Loomis stated that the Board is here to provide the best recommendation
possible to the retirement plan in Phoenix, with respect to any disability retirements or
early retirements, and any recommendations the local board has, will be decided on by
the retirement plan in Phoenix by the plan operators. He stated that the local board is
an advisory board with responsibility to provide that sense of how a particular case may
be special because of some conditions specific to Oro Valley. He also stated that there
will be experts available to the board to help make decisions. The board needs to be
comfortable making that decision based on the information provided.
REVIEW OF MEMORANDUM TO CORP MEMBERS EXPLAINING NEW DISABILITY
RETIREMENT AND MEDICAL EVALUATION CRITERIA
Nancy Anderson drafted the memo with input from Sandra Abbey and Joe Andrews.
Discussion included the amount of information in the memo.
Mayor Loomis initiated discussion about the cover letter. It was agreed that we need a
return receipt, in addition to the cover letter, and members need to sign a form to
indicate they are making a choice to submit to the exam; or they are making an
informed decision to waive it. Sandra Abbey suggested including attaching waivers
along with the letter to be returned.
Nancy Anderson stated that the intent of waiver is that the local board will be reviewing
the medical exam information. The board discussed two problems. The first issue is
initiating a requirement that we need to get a preemployment physical for all members
that are now eligible to have a disability retirement or they need to waive the eligibility
for disability. In addition to this, members have to sign the waiver, because all disability
retirements need to be reviewed by the local board.
It was suggested that in addition to the cover letter members would receive a second
document that says I submit to the exam or I do not submit to the exam, and then the
waiver would be a separate document consenting to the local board reviewing the
medical history. Joe Andrews provided some legal advice regarding wording of the
letter and waivers.
Sandra Abbey volunteered to rework this letter and send it back to the group for
comments. It could have a statement that said you will need to read and sign one of the
two enclosed forms.
Joe Andrews suggested creating checkbox's. One saying that I elect to submit to a
physical and to sign attachment 1; and one saying that I have elected not to have a
physical and I have waived that right.
Mayor Loomis suggested wording that fully explains giving up the ability for disability
retirement that is detailed enough and understandable by the common person, but it
also explains that you are giving up this benefit. He stated that we may want to put it in
the letter that if you choose to refuse the physical you understand the ramifications of
that final decision. Mayor Loomis also asked if we need to get a second witness to the
document? Someone to notarize it, a witness that may need to testify later. No
decision was made regarding a witness.
It was brought up that even if someone has a preexisting condition it is still a benefit
because that preexisting condition may not be the same issue associated with the
disability. It makes medical retirement available for a subsequent different condition.
DISCUSSION REGARDING PROCEDURES FOR CURRENT AND NEW MEMBERS
TO ARRANGE FOR MEDICAL EVALUATIONS OR WAIVE SUCH
.
Mayor Loomis stated that he was bothered by the statement "upon the advice of
council." Mr. Andrews agreed.
Joe Andrews has a suggestion to the waiver. Instead of saying "having consulted with
counsel" we could say "having had the opportunity to consult with counsel", then they
have made a conscious decision to consult or not to consult.
Nancy Anderson reminded the local board of the need to review preexisting conditions
at the time of the medical exam and the employee must be notified of discovered
preexisting conditions. Carol Willett stated that Tucson Occupational has a form that
the city and county uses to turn into their retirement boards. It is a very basic form. The
board discussed the pre-employment process currently used by the town. Nancy
Anderson read a paragraph from a local board training from the pension fund manager.
It stated that "board staff must review the physicals and if there are any preexisting
conditions they must be acknowledged by the board and preserved in the record. You
should also notify the member about the identification of these conditions." It was also
stated that this issue is a local board issue rather than a staff issue. The Board is
responsible for making the determination not Human Resources. Human Resources
are not privy to the personal information like the local board is.
There was an agreement among everyone that the local board is responsible for
reviewing the medical exams. If the doctor determines that there is a preexisting
condition then the board has to accept and recognize that preexisting condition and
notify the individual.
The board discussed the concern that one board member is a supervisor. Joe Andrews
said that just having the knowledge is not a problem; it's what you do with it.
It was decided by the local board that the waiver and cover letter would be revised; and
that the revisions could be reviewed by e-mail.
Mayor Loomis stated for the group to approve the revisions subject to everyone
agreeing to the documents five days after they are sent out via e-mail to everyone. Joe
Andrews responded that it won't violate open meeting law as long as each person
doesn't speak to one another about it and they are returned individually not to each
other. If comments are made to either the letter or the waiver they need to reply with
the comments to Sandra Abbey only and not reply to all. Sandra would then discuss
with each individual the comments. After receiving all of the comments Sandra will
send out a corrected copy incorporating the comments. The group all agreed to this.
Sandra Abbey requested clarification regarding discussions that could be held in
Executive Session. Joe Andrews responded by saying that the board can decide in
advance that it wants to discuss in Executive Session. However, at the election of the
employee it can be conducted in public.
Mayor Loomis requested a motion to approve the letter and attachments with the
additional direction that has been provided to Sandra Abbey with respect to the process,
the check sheet, and the additional waiver on the disability benefits, after review by the
board via e-mail. Nancy Anderson made the motion and Dan Rhoads seconded the
motion.
Motion passed 5 to 0
NEW BUSINESS
Mayor Loomis directed that Human Resources put together a council briefing identifying
the appointments of all of us to the board and having the council establish the board so
we meet the criteria that has been identified at the last meeting; and also, to get on the
consent agenda for the first meeting in October, to be a formally recognized board that
is recognized by the entire council.
The next meeting will be when we get the letters back. We have some sense of
urgency among the members to complete the forms in a timely fashion and to have this
all done within a month to a month in a half and definitely by the end of the year.
Mayor Loomis requested motion to adjourn
Sandra Abbey made motion, Nancy Anderson seconded the motion.
Meeting adjourned at 3:52 p.m.