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ORO VALLEY PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION
REGULAR SESSION
March 1, 2011
ORO VALLEY COUNCIL CHAMBERS
11000 N. LA CANADA DRIVE
CALL TO ORDER AT OR AFTER 6:00 P.M.
Chair Swope called the meeting to order at 6:00 P.M.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: Robert Swope, Chair
Don Cox, Vice Chair
Alan Caine, Commissioner
John Buette, Commissioner
Robin Large, Commissioner
Mark Napier, Commissioner
Robert La Master, Commissioner
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
Chair Swope led the audience in the Pledge of Allegiance.
CALL TO THE AUDIENCE (Non Agenda Items Only)
Opened and closed without comment.
COUNCIL LIAISON COMMENTS
Council Member Joe Hornat updated the Commission on the following:
-ESL was basically untouched by Council
-C-N went through with very minor changes when presented to Council
1. Review and/or approval of the January 13, 2011, and February 1, 2011, P&Z
Commission meeting minutes.
Chair Swope requested grammatical changes to the minutes. The requested changes
have been noted.
MOTION: A motion was made by Vice Chair Cox and seconded by Commissioner La
Master to Approve the January 13, 2011, and February 1, 2011 P&Z Commission
meeting minutes.
2. Public Hearing: Rezoning for R1-144, Single Family Residential to PS,
Private Schools for the purposes of constructing a church on the 17-acre
property located on the southeast corner of Tangerine Road and Shannon
Road, St. Marks Church, represented by ML2 Management LLC., OV910-002.
Mitch Lorenz, from ML2 Management, non resident, presented the following:
- Parish background and community involvement
- Current Tentative Development Plan
- Review of staff conditions of approval
Dave Berringer, from BCDM Architecture, non resident, presented the following:
- Proposed architecture for sanctuary
- Architectural intent & master plan
- Updated view shed analysis of the new sanctuary from Braun Residence.
Mr. Lorenz continued with his presentation
- Responses to neighbor concerns
- Main concerns from the neighbors to the south
- Lighting concerns addressed
- South buffer yard variations
- Screen wall design
- Landscape of south buffer yard
- On-site septic system
- Water
- Shannon Rd. & access
- Religious Education/Administration Building
- Closing statement
Commissioner Caine asked if the buffer yard was still an issue or whether it has been
resolved. Mr. Lorenz responded that currently the detention basin and the drainage
and grading are not fully engineered. It is still a recommended condition that it be
curvilinear and the walls treated on the west side in a similar fashion to the walls on the
east side.
Commissioner Napier confirmed there are 25 conditions in the staff report
and asked Mr. Lorenz if he agrees to comply with all 25 conditions without
reservation. Mr. Lorenz answered that is correct.
Chair Swope asked if the parking to the rear would be impacted by the buffer yard
area they intend to provide. Mr. Lorenz said that is unclear at this time.
Chair Swope voiced his concern with minimizing the buffer by moving the parking to the
rear. Mr. Lorenz commented that the conditions asked for a 25 foot buffer. The
proposed buffer is 35 feet in width, which is 10 feet more.
Commissioner Napier asked for confirmation that there was no more room for
compromise on the building height. Mr. Berringer responded that they have decreased
the building height as much as they can in order to achieve their design objectives.
Commissioner Cox commented that has been stated at a previous meeting that the
education offered by the church would be K-12 opposed to 1st-12 and asked the
applicant to comment on that. Mr. Berringer responded that the parish leaders felt the
pre-school and kindergarten were more compatible and reasonable.
Chad Daines, Principal Planner, presented the following:
- Request
- Context M a p
- Review Focus
- Summary of Proposal
- General Plan Designation
- General Plan - Applicable Policies
- Staff Analysis - Substantive Items
- Public Input - 2 neighborhood meetings
- Summary
Commissioner Large asked if the circulation still worked if the two variances required for
access should be denied. Paul Keesler, Permitting Manager, said one of the
issues was driveway spacing from the intersection and other existing driveways. Town
staff has looked at this and it is something we can recommend for approval. If this does
not happen, there are other mitigation measures that can be used.
Commissioner Caine asked if the rezoning is in compliance with the ESL. David
Williams, Planning Manager commented that the ESL does not take effect for six
months and this rezoning was not evaluated in light of the ESL.
Commissioner Caine asked if the new ESL would make the conditions
more stringent. Mr. Williams said for the Tangerine Road Corridor Overlay District, it
does not.
Commissioner Caine asked how these conditions would remain in place. Mr. Williams
replied that the Commission can recommend additional conditions limiting any uses that
they would like to see prohibited. Mr. Tobin Rosen, Town Attorney, added in the event
a condition is violated it becomes a violation of zoning conditions and is processed as
such by staff.
Chairman Swope asked what the vision of the Tangerine Corridor is and whether a
project of this sort is consistent with that vision. Mr. Williams commented that this is a
case where we need to look at a Tangerine Road as more than just a road. Tangerine
Road will be a major transportation corridor in both Oro Valley and Marana. Oro Valley
has concerns about land use, urban design and transportation issues along this
corridor. Staff is comfortable with this type of facility along the Tangerine Road corridor.
Chairman Swope commented that the General Plan makes it clear that the Significant
Resource Area (SRA) overlay requires that development be clustered in the least
sensitive portions of the SRA and asked if that has happened here and
how. Mr. Ronquillo replied that as part of the site analysis, there was an
overall analysis of plant density on the whole site. On this particular site, there was a lot
of dense vegetation staff felt had to be preserved. The way the site was proposed and
the layout of the building, staff felt the intent of the SRA was met.
Commissioner Napier asked if the Commission would be so inclined to recommend
approval to Council of the twenty-five conditions, would the conditions have force and
effect from this day forward on this development. Mr. Rosen said the Mayor and
Council are the final authority and should they approve this project with conditions, the
conditions would have legal effect at that point.
Commissioner Napier asked for clarification regarding the enforceability of the
conditions. Mr. Rosen stated in terms of enforceability, it is the actual content of the
conditions that would be enforceable. If the conditions were to be modified between
now and approval, it is what is approved that becomes enforceable.
Commissioner Napier commented that Town Staff did not address the question of the
septic system. Mr. Rosen said the design and approval of septic systems is outside the
jurisdiction of OV and is vested in the Pima County Department of Environmental
Quality and it his understanding that the applicant is working with them to gain approval
of the septic system.
Matthew Moutafis, OV resident, said he was there tonight on behalf of St. Marks church
and felt this is going to be a remarkable church and something that OV is going to be
very proud of.
Melody Devenport, non-resident, said she grew up on the existing property that the
church is now on. Ms. Devenport and her family are not happy about the large
traditional catholic design which in her opinion does not fit with the existing design of the
community. The existing church which her father originally agreed to build was only
eighteen feet tall.
Dennis Devenport, non-resident, said he supports all twenty five recommended
conditions for approval with two proposed amendments and would like to offer five
additional conditions for approval. Mr. Devenport supports the applicants request for
rezoning.
The two proposed amendments as follows:
- Changes be made to eliminate kindergarten as a permitted use.
- Screen walls should be a minimum of twenty five feet from the south property line
including the southwest corner of the property.
The five additional conditions for approval are the following:
- Building heights should be limited to twenty five feet maximum.
- Lighting fixtures for parking, landscaping, and buildings should be selected from the
International Dark Sky Associations IDA approved fixture list and installed consistent
with dark sky best practices.
- New development on the site should be connected to the sanitary sewer system and
the developer should be responsible for the cost of connecting the existing sewer
system service.
- No clearing should be done for temporary parking. Parking will only be allowed on
permitted and permanent parking spaces constructed in accordance with Oro Valley
building code.
- Existing water wells should be abandoned and be connected to Oro Valley Water
Utility.
Mr. Devenoport asked Mr. Rosen the following two questions:
- If E3A or El applies?
- What is going on with the Oro Valley light code and if this project would be exempted
from Title 49 of the State code?
Mr. Keesler responded that when staff completes zoning code amendments, we ensure
compliance with State Codes and regulations. Mr. Williams added that our outdoor
lighting code exceeds State requirements and that OV has one the most restrictive
outdoor lighting codes in the State.
Vice Chair Cox asked Mr. Davenport if the sound issue was his only objection to the
kindergarten use. Mr. Devenport responded that he generally does not have a objection
to kindergartens, but does object to any kind of preschool or school next to million dollar
homes. There are four potential building sites next to the church which would be nicer
and quieter without the kindergarten use.
Dick Miller, resident, said his major problem is the height of the church. He was told the
reason for annexation was for preservation of land. The church is asking to be rezoned
to a school because it automatically takes them from twenty eight feet to thirty two feet,
with the ability to ask for another variation to go to forty five feet.
Buzz Braun, resident, said he was passing up the chance to speak to the commission.
Chairman Swope called for Dick Johnson who had left the meeting.
Scott Leska, resident, said he belongs to this wonderful parish and is a member of the
choir at the church. If you have the lower roof line the acoustics are awful, it is hard to
hear and these are major factors in any place of worship and the parish is bursting at
the seams.
Joseph Giliberto, non-resident, said he is a member of this parish and the approval
of this rezoning will be an asset to the community.
Dick Eggerding, resident, said he has been here for some twenty five
years. He supports this project because he believes it is necessary to support the core
values of our community.
Bill Rodman, resident, said he attended one of the planning meetings and was told
there would be a traffic study. On Sundays it is challenging trying to turn onto Camino
De Fierro where he lives and that is with the current number of parishioners they have
now. There is a two-lane highway with one short left turn lane that does not work
now. This is very serious concern and he has been told that nothing could be done
about until the road was widened. Approving this project will cause more traffic
problems before it can be fixed. Putting a person out there with a vest and helping
people get in and out is not the solution. The solution is getting a traffic pattern that
works.
Mr. Keesler replied that this issue is addressed in condition number 18 in exhibit
"A". The developer mentioned no improvements to Tangerine Road are going to be
made, which is not entirely true. If the traffic report requires lane widening and
extension of left turn lanes they will be required to be constructed by the
developer. Traffic conditions must be safe.
Chairman Swope asked if the recommended improvements will be made by the
Town. Mr. Keesler replied that the developer would be required to construct the
improvements as part of their development of the site.
Pastor Liam Leahy, resident, said the church is bursting at seams and currently has a
modular type temporary building. The parish estimates twenty-two percent of Oro
Valley residents are of the Catholic faith and he was here tonight on their behalf.
Mark Pineus, resident, said his family work brought him to Oro Valley, but he made the
decision to live in Oro Valley because of the community and he was very impressed
with St. Mark Roman Catholic Church. For Roman Catholics, the height and
architecture of the church is important as it is lifts their spirits and raises them closer to
God.
Phil Hernandez, resident, said he understands the concerns of residents in regards to
change and growth, especially if it affects views and generates additional traffic. There
is an opportunity here to have a wonderful church and a gateway into Oro Valley and a
place for community gathering.
John Lonien, resident, said there is not enough room in the church to sit. The
lighting was not an issue, it was so dark that he was unable to find the entrance the
other night. He asked the Commission to consider if it is needed here in Oro Valley.
MOTION: A motion was made by Vice Chair Cox and seconded by Commissioner La
Master to Approve with the conditions set forth in Exhibit "A" OV910-02, request for
approval of the rezoning for St. Mark Church.
Discussion:
Commissioner Caine stated the development will dominate the landscape and believes
the intent stated in the General Plan was to preserve the landscape. Several speakers
spoke about the building and the intent to dominate the landscape and he has no real
feeling on what the development is going to look like. He is leaning towards not
recommending it because he is unsure of what it is going to look like.
Chairman Swope commented that another option was to ask for a continuance
and conduct a more in depth visual analysis.
Commissioner Large commented it is this Commission's responsibility to look at the
land use and how appropriate it is for this location and she is not sure if anyone on the
Commission has a good grasp on what the Tangerine Road corridor will look like in a
few years. This is a major corridor where traffic will be focused and where intense
development should be. A church can be an intense use, especially certain days of the
week. She can see Tangerine Road supporting more intense uses. When Tangerine
Road is widened, it will have a right of way comparable to Interstate 10. She can
understand the Braun family concerns, there will inevitably be more intense land uses
along Tangerine Road in the future.
Commissioner La Master commented that he believes the time to talk about the
restriction of use on the property should have been at the time of sale, instead of waiting
until now.
Vice-Chair Cox commented that he spent close to two hours walking the site from one
corner to the other. There is absolutely no doubt that this project is going to have an
effect on the views to the north, but agrees with Commissioner La Master on his
comment about the restrictions at the time of sale. Architecturally the design of the
church is great, he has no concerns that the Town is not complying with the dark sky
lighting code.
Commissioner Buette commented that Tangerine Road is going to be major corridor
and, of all the things that could be built along this corridor, this project is something we
will be proud of as opposed to a big box store.
Commissioner Napier commented that he endorses this project and believes the
applicant has made thoughtful concessions and has tried to be as accommodating as
possible to the desires of the neighborhood. We need to consider this church as a
community asset.
Chairman Swope commented that this project seems to be consistent with the
Tangerine Corridor vision and is consistent with the General Plan. He would prefer a
church to other potential uses. He was dismayed that there were five additional
conditions and two amendments being proposed while the Commission is
deliberating. The only issue that might have some merit would be consideration of a
twenty-sixth condition of prohibiting clearing of vegetation for temporary parking.
Commissioner Caine asked if the forty-five foot building height is a given or is still
subject to design review approval. Mr. Williams responded that the base height
was twenty five foot, but the zone allows an additional ten feet subject to design
review approval. The steeple or tower can be forty-five feet tall. The Commission's
recommendation tonight will go forward to Town Council and if approved by
Council, gain approval from the design review body would they be required for the
additional ten feet.
Mr. Keesler commented that the zoning code requires a hardened dust free surface for
temporary grading. The applicant is required to get permits to support the actual
parking for the church itself. Temporary parking lots would not work within the
framework of the development plan, there is a maximum and minimum parking
requirement per the code.
MOTION carried, 7-0.
3. Planning Division Manager Update
David Williams, Oro Valley Planning Division Manager, presented the manager's
update:
- ESL was unanimously approved by Council on February 16th.
- Public Art Code that came before the Planning Commission in January will go to
Council on March 2nd.
- Updated Sign Code will go before the Council on March 2nd.
- Potential LA Fitness at the northeast corner of Oracle Rd. and Hardy.
- Community Academy agenda for spring classes has been published on the Planning
Division website.
- Conceptual Design Review Board code amendments are currently being drafted.
- Next Planning Commission meeting is April 5th.
- Publication of zoning interpretations item is on the April 5th agenda.
4. Future Agenda Items
Vice Chair Cox stated he would like to see an update of the work plan.
MOTION: A motion was made by Commissioner Buette and seconded by Vice Chair
Cox to Adjourn
MOTION carried, 7-0.
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Roseanne Flores
Recording Secretary
I hereby certify that the foregoing minutes are a true and correct copy of the minutes of the
regular session of the Planning and Zoning Commission of Oro Valley, Arizona held on the 1th
day of March 2011. I further certify that the meeting was duly called and held and that a quorum
was present.