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From: Sirois, Andrea
Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2023 8:21 AM
To: Stine, Michelle
Cc: Hynd, Jessica; Standish, Michael
Subject: FW: Disc Golf and the future of Pusch Ridge Golf Course
FYI
Sincerely,
Andrea Sirois
Executive Assistant
Town Manager, Mayor and Council
Town of Oro Valley
Direct Line: 520-229-4714
-----Original Message -----
From: Lisa D'Angelo
Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2023 8:17 AM
To: Town Council <council@orovalleyaz.gov>
Subject: Disc Golf and the future of Pusch Ridge Golf Course
Mayor Winfield and Town Council,
Here we are yet once again at the corner of frustration and uncertainty about our neighborhood's future. It is beginning
to feel that we are being purposely targeted.
Many of us bought our patio homes in El Conquistador for a retirement lifestyle. Many of us have bought membership to
the resort to enjoy the amenities up there. This community was built for that purpose and has been part of the resort
for 40 years. Yet here we are again worrying about the land on which we live. We worry that we will once again live on a
"dirt track" in a year so. The town is inflicting this angst on seniors in their 70s and 80s, which is not right.
This neighborhood (and many "Friends of Pusch Ridge Golf") work tirelessly to promote and market the course to a very
diverse demographic of users. Resort and hotel guests, families, young adults, U of A students, seniors, and four weekly
leagues come, pay, and enjoy this course. Why is this not being celebrated and why NO enthusiasm on the part of the
town staff, council and particularly Parks and Recreation to build upon that success?
The lack of interest and enthusiasm is evident with the lack of maintenance and upkeep of the golf and tennis grounds
these past two season. We never see a regular maintenance crew come and clean up trash, let alone take care of the
grass or mow (what's left of it). Instead, neighbors come and pick up trash, buy flower pots, etc otherwise it would be a
disaster area. Where is Parks and Rec when it comes to presenting a quality product and Town image. It is like they
don't even care or see it. When is the last time the director of Parks and Recreation has come over to the facility?
We developed and executed a comprehensive marketing plan for the 2022-23 season resulting in a profitable operation
with no tax burden on town residents. Yet NO effort has been made to research ways to make the course
environmentally stable for a year round operation. Why? Was that not the council directive to staff in the 2/17/2021
motion?
Parks and Recreation instead got very busy with the Tucson Disc Golf Club to ramrod a disc golf operation through (with
no town council approval). It is fascinating to see how enthusiastic they become when personal interests are involved.
I believe disc golf would be a wonderful addition to our town amenities. It is a growing sport. But it belongs on what the
Parks and Rec own master plan says as a "conservation area/trail park system area" NOT inches away from patios where
homeowners, sit, eat , and enjoy their property.
I ask that you please address the elephant in the living room -the future of Pusch Ridge Golf. Are you willing to invest in
this facility to make it sustainable. The demand for 9 hole golf in Oro Valley is proven. There is no other 9 hole course in
NW Tucson. Will you support your 4 diamond Resort by keeping this a course also for their guests, as the resort
generates significant sales and bed tax dollars for the town. It seems to me that all these things go "hand in hand". Can
we put aside politics and do the right thing for Oro Valley?
Thank you.
Lisa D'Angelo
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Stine, Michelle
From:
Sirois, Andrea
Sent:
Wednesday, June 21, 2023 8:24 AM
To:
Standish, Michael
Cc:
Stine, Michelle
Subject:
FW: Pusch Ridge Disc Golf
FYI
Sincerely,
Andrea Sirois
Executive Assistant
Town Manager, Mayor and Council
Town of Oro Valley
Direct Line: 520-229-4714
From: kelly windsor
Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2023 5:14 PM
To: Town Council <council@orovalleyaz.gov>
Subject: Pusch Ridge Disc Golf
Hello,
I don't live in one of the Pusch Ridge HOAs, but I do drive by the 9 hole golf course every day.
I've been watching the Disc Golf course with interest because I thought the DG tournaments were pretty cute. It was nice to see
crowds of enthusiastic young people out there and there didn't seem to be any negative effect on the golf course.
The summer DG season has so far been a different story. I have never seen a soul on the course except for weekend mornings.
Imagine my shock today when I stopped by the 4th green and saw that huge gouges had been dug out of it by the discs.
Given that the course revenue must be extremely low, I suspect it's going to cost more to repair the course in the fall (if even possible;
Indigo would know) than it brings in in revenue. Perhaps significantly more. I'm not under the impression that golf course greens can
be fixed with just a little grass seed.
I just have to wonder if this is the best place for the disc golfers.
Respectfully,
Kelly Windsor
Oro Valley resident
Stine, Michelle
From:
Sirois, Andrea
Sent:
Tuesday, June 20, 2023 1:13 PM
To:
Standish, Michael
Cc:
Stine, Michelle; Hynd, Jessica
Subject:
FW: Disc Golf and the future of Pusch Ridge Golf Course
FYI
Sincerely,
Andrea Sirois
Executive Assistant
Town Manager, Mayor and Council
Town of Oro Valley
Direct Line: 520-229-4714
From: Mary Forsythe
Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2023 10:21 AM
To: Town Council <council@orovalleyaz.gov>
Cc:
Subject: Disc Golf and the future of Pusch Ridge Golf Course
Dear Mayor Winfield and Oro Valley Council Members,
I respectfully ask each of you to take time to read Lisa D'Angelo's letter below. She has clearly laid out our wishes as well
as our community's.
As a resident of Arizona and the EICon neighborhood, my husband Tim and I implore you to include us in your
representation!
We've all worked so hard to make our retirements here as promising as we hoped for when we purchased our homes.
Please don't change the rules of our golf contract midway after we have diligently worked to keep up our part of the
contract.
Please, please hear us.
We want a beautiful and successful 9 hole golf course. Disc Golf doesn't belong here. The course is simply too narrow,
the existing 9 hole golf design does not work for disc golf.
Sincerely,
Mary and Tim Forsvthe
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From: Lisa D'Angelo
Subject: Fwd: Disc Golf and the suture of Nusch Ridge Golf Course
Subject: Disc Golf and the future of Pusch Ridge Golf Course
Mayor Winfield and Town Council,
Here we are yet once again at the corner of frustration and uncertainty about our neighborhood's
future. It is beginning to feel that we are being purposely targeted.
Many of us bought our patio homes in El Conquistador for a retirement lifestyle. Many of us have
bought membership to the resort to enjoy the amenities up there. This community was built for that
purpose and has been part of the resort for 40 years. Yet here we are again worrying about the land on
which we live. We worry that we will once again live on a "dirt track" in a year so. The town is inflicting
this angst on seniors in their 70s and 80s, which is not right.
This neighborhood (and many "Friends of Pusch Ridge Golf") work tirelessly to promote and market the
course to a very diverse demographic of users. Resort and hotel guests, families, young adults, U of A
students, seniors, and four weekly leagues come, pay, and enjoy this course. Why is this not being
celebrated and why NO enthusiasm on the part of the town staff, council and particularly Parks and
Recreation to build upon that success?
The lack of interest and enthusiasm is evident with the lack of maintenance and upkeep of the golf and
tennis grounds these past two season. We never see a regular maintenance crew come and clean up
trash, let alone take care of the grass or mow (what's left of it). Instead, neighbors come and pick up
trash, buy flower pots, etc otherwise it would be a disaster area. Where is Parks and Rec when it comes
to presenting a quality product and Town image. It is like they don't even care or see it. When is the
last time the director of Parks and Recreation has come over to the facility?
We developed and executed a comprehensive marketing plan for the 2022-23 season resulting in a
profitable operation with no tax burden on town residents. Yet NO effort has been made to research
ways to make the course environmentally stable for a year round operation. Why? Was that not the
council directive to staff in the 2/17/2021 motion?
Parks and Recreation instead got very busy with the Tucson Disc Golf Club to ramrod a disc golf
operation through (with no town council approval). It is fascinating to see how enthusiastic they
become when personal interests are involved.
I believe disc golf would be a wonderful addition to our town amenities. It is a growing sport. But it
belongs on what the Parks and Rec own master plan says as a "conservation area/trail park system area"
NOT inches away from patios where homeowners, sit, eat , and enjoy their property.
I ask that you please address the elephant in the living room -the future of Pusch Ridge Golf. Are you
willing to invest in this facility to make it sustainable. The demand for 9 hole golf in Oro Valley is
proven. There is no other 9 hole course in NW Tucson. Will you support your 4 diamond Resort by
keeping this a course also for their guests, as the resort generates significant sales and bed tax dollars
for the town. It seems to me that all these things go "hand in hand". Can we put aside politics and do
the right thing for Oro Valley?
Thank you.
Lisa D'Angelo
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Stine, Michelle
From: Sirois, Andrea
Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2023 8:42 AM
To: Standish, Michael; Stine, Michelle
Subject: FW: Pusch Ridge Golf course & disc golf
FYI
Sincerely,
Andrea Sirois
Executive Assistant
Town Manager, Mayor and Council
Town of Oro Valley
Direct Line: 520-229-4714
From: Edna Murph, _
Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2023 8:38 AM
To: Town Council <council@orovalleyaz.gov>
Subject: re: Pusch Ridge Golf course & disc golf
I'm a homeowner in El Conquistador Patio homes & am level with the course. I'm ok with having the occasional Pro Disc
Golf tournaments but not having the course taken over by continual disc golf by a hap hazard group of players. I, along
with a number of other residents, question how this was instigated/approved without the input from the 3 HOAs, who
help subsidize this course & the town council. There is the security aspect of this especially for the single women who
live in this neighborhood but the lack of monitoring the play after hours. This 9 hole course has been a success over the
last 2 years, with increased rounds of golf/over 16,000 this past season. Please take into consideration the agreement
that was made with Friends of Pucsh Ridge Golf and not make changes without keeping us the loop. Please reconsider
this & let's continue with this course being a successful 9 hole course.
Thank you for your time.
Edna Murphy
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From: Sirois, Andrea
Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2023 9:56 AM
To: Standish, Michael; Stine, Michelle
Subject: FW: Disc Golf At Pusch Ridge 9 Hole Golf Course?????
FYI
Sincerely,
Andrea Sirois
Executive Assistant
Town Manager, Mayor and Council
Town of Oro Valley
Direct Line: 520-229-4714
-----Original Message -----
From: Jill Radel
Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2023 9:34 AM
To: Town Council <council@orovalleyaz.gov>
Subject: Disc Golf At Pusch Ridge 9 Hole Golf Course?????
I never thought I would be writing this email again - expressing the same concerns I had in regard to earlier plans for
the future of the Pusch Ridge 9 Hole Golf Course. It was such a relief to have been given an opportunity with a 3 year
plan to turn things around. And it was working..... Disc Golf???? That would be my personal worst nightmare. My
property is likely the easiest property to access - it's just a matter of putting one leg over the wrought iron fence located
on the slope off the second tee, and you would be in my back courtyard - three feet from my bedroom. I am a 75 year
old female residing there alone and this frightens me. I've seen disc golf fail miserably in other places. It requires more
open space = more open public space and not a location on a narrow fairway, surrounded by homes. It's an invitation for
damage and an open door to those not necessarily there to throw a disc. Please, please reconsider. Please allow the
homeowners most affected, to have that 3rd year to complete the revival of that magnificent and challenging 9 hole golf
course.
Thank you for your consideration and for your work in the community.
Jill Radel
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Stine, Michelle
From: Sirois, Andrea
Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2023 11:22 AM
To: Standish, Michael; Stine, Michelle
Subject: FW: Pusch Ridge GC
FYI
Sincerely,
Andrea Sirois
Executive Assistant
Town Manager, Mayor and Council
Town of Oro Valley
Direct Line: 520-229-4714
From: John Keeler
Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2023 11:20 AM
To: Town Council <council@orovaIleyaz.gov>
Subject: FW: Pusch Ridge GC
Dear Council,
I would like to add another thought to my email from earlier today.
In my almost 40 years ..... I have been a member of a couple of private clubs, I actually own a share of a semi -private
course near my summer home in upstate NY, but I have mostly played public and municipal courses.
In all those years and situations ..... I never volunteered to repair and rake bunkers, pull weeds, fix ball marks, fill divots,
remove brush, repair stone edging along cart paths, unearth yardage markers, pick-up broken tees on the tee
boxes..... until I came to Pusch Ridge and joined the early Wednesday group of volunteers. I was able to make it many
Wednesdays.... but there are several who make it every Wednesday.
Where else have you seen that outpouring of dedication, commitment, and level of interest in a golf course...that people
will pay to play there and .....then come Wednesday mornings volunteer to help take care of it. I know of no other group
anywhere that is doing that.
Regards,
John
From: "John Keeler"
To: "council@orovalleyaz.gov"
Cc:
Sent: Wednesday June 212023 1:14:28PM
Subject: Pusch Ridge GC
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Dear Council,
It has come to my attention that you are considering a shift in the direction of Pusch Ridge away from being primarily a
traditional golf course.
If you were to poll the people that have played golf at Pusch Ridge you would hear the words .... fun, challenging, unique,
special. Those are powerful words that any marketing executive would love to hear about the product or service they
were offering. Why even consider a different direction now that we have proven in the last two years the viability, level
of interest, level of play and community spirit that exists around Pusch Ridge.
As someone who has played virtually every Monday and Wednesday from the start to the finish of the last two
seasons .... I implore you to reconsider.
Pusch Ridge 'Golf Course'....... is a gem with incredible potential.... not only as a golf course but as the focal point of a very
special community. With a bit more TLC from the grounds crew, Pusch Ridge could be one of the most fun, challenging
and picturesque 9 hole courses in the country.
I have been playing golf for nearly forty years and have played all over the country from Pebble Beach to PGA
National.... host of the Honda Classic .... to TPC River Highlands.... host of this week's PGA Tour stop. And many many
more marquee courses as well as countless private, public and municipal courses ..... Pusch Ridge is unique and worth
investing further resources..... not fewer.
The Monday morning men's league is a prime example of how unique and special Pusch Ridge is ..... at most courses,
players tend to play with the same people week after week..... but on Mondays we are always playing with different
people and then (often as many as 40) gathering afterwards on the patio for an hour or two of conversation, bonding
and comradery. No where else have I seen or been a part of such a wonderful experience.
The Wednesday afternoon mixed couples league .... The Prickly Pairs .... is also very special and unique. As is the case at
most other courses, they will play a 'Nine and Dine'..... but again people tend to play with the same people week after
week. On Wednesdays we mix it up so everyone gets to play once or twice per season with everyone else, and then 35-
40 of us will go up to the Hilton for drinks and dinner or we all go to another nearby restaurant for dinner to also
support the many nearby restaurants in Oro Valley.
Please consider the financial impact locally, the lost comradery that traditional golf fosters, the lost connection to the
surrounding community and the impact on the home values surrounding PR if the course is neglected. It is safe to say,
traditional golf has been around for centuries and there are literally many millions of golfers, compared with the
relatively miniscule number of disc golfers.
Thanks for the opportunity to present my thoughts regarding Pusch Ridge.
Regards,
John
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Stine, Michelle
From: Sirois, Andrea
Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2023 1:16 PM
To: Standish, Michael; Stine, Michelle
Subject: FW: Rebuttal to Council member Bohen's declaration of fraud by the Friends of Pusch
Ridge Golf
FYI
Sincerely,
Andrea Sirois
Executive Assistant
Town Manager, Mayor and Council
Town of Oro Valley
Direct Line: 520-229-4714
From: Anthony DAngelc
Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2023 12:46 PM
To: Town Council
Cc: C
Subject: Rebuttal to Council member Bohen's declaration of fraud by the Friends of Pusch Ridge Golf
Mayor Winfield and members of the Town Council,
As President of Friends of Pusch Ridge Golf I feel I must respond to Councilman Tim Bohen's wild
allegation that somehow Friends of Pusch Ridge Golf has participated in a fraudulent
misrepresentation of the performance of golf on Pusch Ridge.
Friends of Pusch Ridge Golf was formed to encourage golf play on the course, assist the Town and
Indigo Golf in marketing golf play and to create a welcoming and fun experience for Oro Valley
residents and visitors who choose to play golf. Our mission is also to work with the Town on
finding ways to make the golf course more environmentally sustainable.
We do not run the course nor do we create any of the performance metrics of the course. We use
the performance reports provided by the Town's golf contractor, Indigo Golf Partners to evaluate
the impact of our efforts. We do not receive Indigo's financial reports for Pusch Ridge until after
they have been distributed to the Town Council. If Councilman Bohen doesn't believe the
numbers presented, it would seem that he is in a better position to verify them than we are.
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Based upon what we are given, the first two years of Pusch Ridge Golf Course operations has
required no tax subsidies — in both years, the course revenues have exceeded course operating
expenses.
Councilman Bohen asserts that Indigo's performance numbers are overstated. He provided no
evidence. Nor did he offer any reason why Indigo Golf Partners would choose to overstate
performance. They have no contractual incentives to do so. Overstating golf rounds would
impact revenues per round and profitability. Overstating revenues would certainly be caught by
the Town's Finance Department and outside auditors. Indigo Golf Partners is part of Troon Golf
which is a major golf operator with a stellar reputation. Why would they risk that?
During this past golf season, given the potential days of operations and hours of play available, the
course had the potential to sell approximately 32,000 rounds of golf. The first year, available
rounds were approximately 30,000 rounds. This would require four golfers to start play every 15
minutes from opening until close, regardless of weather. That's a tall order for any golf course
operation to fill every tee time, every day. During the time the Town operated Pusch Ridge Golf
and prior to the reopening and support of Friends of Pusch Ridge, the course averaged around
4000 rounds. The first year of operations in 2021-2022 the town established a budget of 6675
rounds. It ended the year at 15,248 rounds. This season over 16,000 rounds. Performance
represents over 50% of available rounds played. That is considered very good. During the second
season the average rounds played per day was 86. Again, quite strong given the weather
challenges we had. It is also important to understand that this is a "fast, fun and affordable" 9-
hole golf course — it is positioned to serve players out to have fun, not to those who play every
day, rain or shine.
Councilman Bohen says "he has been out there" and does not believe the course averages over 80
rounds a day. I did see him one day sitting in a chair Friends of Pusch Ridge Golf bought for the
course. I was out there almost every day, talked to the pro shop team, reviewed the tee sheet
and talked to golfers. I also checked the Golf Links booking engine via the GolfNow app multiple
times a day to monitor how many tee times were available. Yes, there would be no shows and
cancelations but I remain convinced the numbers reported were accurate. Of course, there was
more play on some days vs. others. There was also a need for balance to keep it a fun
experience. The Indigo Golf Pros made the decision to not overload the course with players given
the skill levels of the target audience. It is more important to have players have a good time and
return than to pack the course. We did not make up the numbers. I absolutely believe the 86
rounds per day was real.
It is also important to note that our commitment to the Town was to create an experience that
welcomed all levels of golfers. We especially encouraged families to introduce children to
golf. After 2:00 PM daily, kids 15 and under played free with a paying adult. Families took
advantage of this and the numbers of "comps" reflected the kids free play. This impacted the
revenue per rounds some but we still believe the overall financial performance was a success plus
remember this is a municipal facility and not intended to be a profit center.
Councilman Bohen also asserted the best revenue weekends were during the Disc Golf
Tournaments. It is important to point out that these tournaments would not have come to the
course had it not been restored to a quality, green golf course. This is why ESPN broadcasted one
event —the beauty of the course and the views make for great TV. These tournaments were
required to buy out all tee times to provide for exclusive use, of course the revenues were
strong. Again, without it being a golf course, the attraction would not have been there. By the
way, we have supported scheduled and managed disc golf tournaments during the golf season
from the beginning if they provide the Town extra income, support tourism and do not harm golf
operations.
Councilman Bohen scoffed at the notion that the Town would introduce golf and disc golf on the
course at the same time. That is exactly what Parks and Recreation first proposed nearly a year
ago when they first met with us regarding disc golf. We had only had one year of operations
under our belt and we feared this concept could only hurt what we were trying to create in terms
of a golf experience. That is why we asked the Town Council to clearly keep golf and disc golf
separate.
Councilman Bohen asserts that golf in Oro Valley cost the Town over $4,000,000 to operate this
year. I believe he is trying to conflate the number by including the approved investment for the
new irrigation systems on the 36-holes. By his logic, we would have to say Naranja Park cost over
$17,000,000 to "operate" this year. Capital investments are separate from operating
expenses. Golf operations — revenues from user fees and product sales minus the costs to
generate those revenues will show a positive number. No other town recreational asset is
performing this well and Councilman Bohen should know that.
Currently the Town is "testing" public play disc golf on the course for the summer at the same
time the Town chooses to let the course go dormant — only maintaining the golf greens to keep
them alive. The course is brown, with many patches of raw dirt exposed. It is not a pretty sight
and it is unfair to the residents who live there. Not surprisingly, the course is averaging only about
ten rounds of disc golfers a day paying $10 a round. I doubt anyone would pay the premiums to
host a tournament under these conditions.
For some reason, Councilman Bohen does not like Pusch Ridge Golf or the Friends of Pusch Ridge
Golf. He says he is now a disc golf player. We don't believe the distraction of public play disc golf
will help us with the sustainability of the golf course. He is entitled to his opinion and his
recreational preferences.
He is not entitled to disparage us for trying to provide the Town's residents with an amenity that
is well received. We believe quality of life matters in Oro Valley. We don't expect others to pay
for the benefit of a few. That is why we have worked so hard to broaden the appeal of the golf
course in the community and residents and visitors have responded. We know we have a water
challenge and we want to work with the Town to mitigate it. We know the first step was proving
there was sufficient demand to justify the effort. We believe we have done that and we
appreciate the response from the community.
It seems very unfair to be accused of misrepresenting reality with no evidence. Shame on an
elected town councilman for treating hardworking residents this way and thank you Oro Valley
residents and businesses for supporting our efforts.
Finally, I want to thank Mayor Winfield, Vice Mayor Barrett, and council members Greene, Jones -
Ivy, Nicholson, and Solomon for being open to our concerns and approving the motion that
asserts the Town Council's authority to define how the Pusch Ridge Golf Course is used and when
it is used.
Respectfully,
Tony D'Angelo
Resident and President of Friends of Pusch Ridge Golf
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Stine, Michelle
From: Sirois, Andrea
Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2023 3:44 PM
To: Standish, Michael; Stine, Michelle
Subject: FW: Council Meeting - June 21, 2023
FYI
Sincerely,
Andrea Sirois
Executive Assistant
Town Manager, Mayor and Counci
Town of Oro Valley
Direct Line: 520-229-4714
-----Original Message -----
From: Anna Bifar
Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2023 2:57 PM
To: Town Council <council@orovalleyaz.gov>; Cornelison, Chris <ccornelison@orovalleyaz.gov>; Darryl Janisse
Subject: Council Meeting -June 21, 2023
Dear Mayor Winfield, Council Members, Chris, Darryl and Jeff
I just read the email that Tony D'Angelo sent regarding last nights meeting, so I won't waste your time repeating most of
the information that he already clearly articulated about Friends of Pusch Ridge, our core focus, and the numbers that
we closely monitor as a measurement of the courses's success. I will say, that I agree and support everything he shared.
Mayor Winfield, I have participated in many of your meetings and always appreciated the professional and courteous
way you communicate with the council, staff and participants. Thank you for giving us the time to speak about the
course last night. As you can tell, we feel passionate about the course and the positive outcomes we've achieved
together - it is a recreational amenity for all ages and play levels and has brought people together that would have never
had the opportunity to meet.
Our team has contributed our diverse professional expertise to market the course, local restaurants and the value of our
tourism in Oro Valley. Many of us have consulting, legal, financial, entrepreneurial, marketing and managerial
backgrounds. We've put all this expertise together and devoted it to Pusch Ridge and Oro Valley.
In the course of the meeting, where many of us were present in person and on zoom, it was beyond belief that
Councilman Bohen would look directly at us and say that our HOA financial contribution was "nothing" compared to the
$1 Million expense to run Pusch Ridge. It was disconcerting, unfounded and I believe inaccurate. We have evaluated the
numbers provided and shared them through all possible outlets - our 700 friends, Social Media, Pod Casts, Newsletters,
local hotels, etc. We would not share the numbers if we thought in any way that they were inaccurate. Our efforts are
focused on the continued growth of Pusch Ridge Golf, supporting a Town owned asset with revenues, protect our
property values and as I mentioned last night, promote the availability of golf that 22 percent of respondents stated was
a priority item in the last Park and Rec Survey.
To have Councilman Bohen use the term "fraud" after we presented our sincere thoughts, requests and concerns is
certainly not representative of the core values that we expect of our local government. Using the word fraud is a very
serious accusation.
Thank you to all of you that worked hard on clarifying and voting on the motion presented by Councilman Solomon. We
appreciate your support.
Anna Bifano, Vice President
Friends of Pusch Ridge Golf
Landscape Chair
El Conquistador Patio Homes.
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Stine, Michelle
From:
Sirois, Andrea
Sent:
Friday, June 23, 2023 2:27 PM
To:
Standish, Michael
Cc:
Stine, Michelle
Subject:
FW: Call to Audience Comments
Follow Up Flag: Follow up
Flag Status: Completed
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From: Edward Clary
Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2023 8:38 PM
To: Greene, Harry <hgreene@orovalleyaz.gov>
Subject: Call to Audience Comments
Good Evening Dr Greene,
I had intended to attend this evening's Council Meeting and address you and your colleagues during Call to Audience,
but unfortunately, due to unforeseen circumstance, at the last minute I was unable to attend. I'd like to pass on the
comments I had intended to make. As always, thank you for your attention and your service to Oro Valley.
Respectfully,
Ed Clary
"Good Evening Mayor Winfield and members of the Council.
My name is Ed Clary, and I'm a resident of Oro Valley.
Today I'd like to discuss the application of zoning codes in our Town. My wife and I are trying to build an external garage/storage
building on our property. We recently submitted a building design for permitting, which turns out to be in violation of zoning code -
its apex is a couple feet too high. This is the contractor's doing, but in an attempt to minimize the impact of the situation, I spoke
directly to Zoning staff. I was told that the design would require a variance or waiver in its current form. I inquired what I would
need to do. The answer was a very professional, "Well a variance is if you cannot meet code for some reason, and that's not the
case here, your design certainly could meet code, so in theory we would need to examine a waiver, but we never grant any waivers
of this specific type." I was a bit surprised by the immediacy and finality of the statement, and said, "Never?" to be answered again
with "Never."
Discussion over, lock, stock and barrel. Honestly, in and of itself, this doesn't bother me — there are zoning codes for a reason, and
all should abide by them, even if, as in our case, the building in question will not even be visible from our street and even the only
neighbor who would see it does not object to it in any way in its current form. That said, we will redesign to meet code, the mistake
was unintentional; that was always our intent!
But, this begs a really big question. Why, if I, as just a regular citizen of Oro Valley who wishes to improve my property in such a way
which literally effects NO ONE other than as described above - why does the Oro Valley Church of the Nazarene get innumerable
attempts to rezone their property in such a manner that is vigorously opposed by all their neighbors who are not congregants, as
well as an expanding number of community groups and blogs, which demonstrably reduces the property values and quality of life of
their neighbors, and which the P&Z commission itself voted down as incompatible with its neighborhood? It doesn't pass the
common sense or basic fairness tests.
The rumor mill has it that the Council is being legally advised that they must acquiesce to OVCN's demands, as there are possible
conflicts with federal law in regards to religious exclusions. There are good lawyers on the other side of the story who say that while
OVCN may have a basis to make such a claim, (meaning it won't be summarily dismissed) it is by NO means a done deal
legally. Every right in our society has limits, aka —1" Amendment notwithstanding, you can't shout "fire" in a crowded
theater. Common sense dictates that OVCN's assertion that a sports complex is required to exercise their religion, at the expense of
their neighbors certainly tests the limits of any sort of religious exemption allowance. So, in the absence of a clear legal path,
despite what you might be being told, I respectfully submit that should the OVCN project ever come before you for a vote, you
simply do the right thing. Vote it down — it simply isn't the right location for such a project. Neighbors know it, P&Z staff know it,
the P&Z Commission knows it, and I think you probably do too. Don't be intimidated. Don't buy in to OVCN's assertions that the
"neighborhood has changed" and therefore justifies this — the only significant change to this neighborhood in the last 20+ years has
been OVCN's previous expansions! Treat OVCN as you do all other citizens/entities in this Town, and hold them to the same rules
that all the rest are required to follow, and who are told, "we never grant any waivers of this specific type."
Respectfully,
Ed (& Martina) Clary
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To:
Standish, Michael
Cc:
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Subject:
FW: HOA agreement
Attachments:
attachment 1.docx
FYI
From: Greene, Harry <hgreene@orovalleyaz.gov>
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To: Sirois, Andrea <asirois@orovalleyaz.gov>
Subject: FW: HOA agreement
From: Ray Dissenger
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Subject: Fwd: HOA agreement
Steve and Mo,
I've attached the complete agreement and the cut and highlighted applicable sections
This is the recital - the town was thinking about closing or repurposing - the HOAs objected so
we had an agreement to operate as a golf course in exchange for financial contributions - clearly
disc golf is repurposing and not in accordance with the agreement
D. In 2020, the Town considered closing and/or repurposing the 9-hole Pusch Course.
E. The Associations objected to the Town closing or repurposing the Pusch Course based on the beauty and uniqueness of the course and the
potential negative impact that either action would have upon their members' property values.
F. The Parties thereafter discussed ways to resolve these differences.
G. Included in these discussions were proposals for the Associations to make financial contributions to the Town in exchange for the
Town continuing to operate the 9-hole PuschCourse.
The town obligation to operate PR as a golf course - no mention of other uses
5. Town Obligation to Continue Operating the 9-hole Pusch Ridge Course, operated as a Golf Course: The Town will act in good
faith to continue operation of the Pusch Ridge course as a golf course for three (3) years and up to five (5) years as follows, contingent upon
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continued operation of the Pusch Ridge as a golf course as determined by the Oro Valley Town Council once Town Staff returns with their analysis
as required in this Section:
When the course is not open for golf then maintained in a manner "reasonable and customary" - we asked for an example(s) where another use (DG in
this case) The town pushed for this because they didn't want to water & care for the course
C. The Parties agree that outside of any Golf Year, or whenever the Pusch Ridge Course is otherwise legitimately closed for golf play, the
Town agrees to maintain the Pusch Ridge Course only in a manner that is reasonable and customary for an Arizona golf course when not open
for golf play.
The town can expand golf play - DG despite the name is not golf. When we wrote the agreement,
I pushed for a yearly meeting to discuss more golf. The town "softened" it to this option. Side
note - Chris Cornelison, Joe Andrews and I were the primary drafters of the agreement
g. Nothing in this Agreement limits the Town from expanding golf play outside of any given Golf Year. On a continuing basis the Town will
evaluate the possibility to expand the operation of the Course but is not obligated to do so.
Our letter which you have a copy of was our notice - we have consulted with our HOA lawyer. She is confident in the areas I addressed
8. Breach: If any of the Parties become aware of a material breach of this Agreement by any party to this Agreement, it shall promptly
notify all non -breaching Parties in writing of the claimed material breach with reasonable detail. Within thirty (30) calendar days of a claimed
material breach, the parties will jointly meet and communicate with each other in person in a good faith effort to resolve the claimed material
breach, and the party in claimed material breach has thirty (30) calendar days to cure said breach to the reasonable satisfaction of the other
parties. Failure to timely cure said breach in accordance with this provision allows for the immediate termination of the entirety of this
Agreement. In theevent of a material breach by any of the Parties entitles the non -breaching Party, in its sole discretion, to pursue all legal
rights and claims against the Party in breach, including but not limited to asserting its legal rights against the Party in breach for the breach
and recover damages, enforce security rights, if any against the breaching Party under paragraph 4, above, and/or terminate this
Agreement. Interest on unpaid or untimely paid monies to the Town shall accrue interest at the prime rate of interest as published in the Wall
Street Journal on the date monies are due plus 3%. Any breach by the Town would require it to return all payments made by an
Association during the payment year of said breach in a timely manner, or interest will accrue as stated above.
All changes require agreement in writing
14. Modification: The terms of this Agreement cannot be modified except in a writing signed by the Parties.
The bottom line - we are not necessarily opposed to DG ......
BUT believe first off it requires a modification to our agreement AND approval by town council. That modification must clearly define a
summer of 2023 only exception, that golf year three starting in November will NOT include DG and if the town is interested in DG they need
to explore other venues. We are disappointed with town staff. We had agreed to 90% of their plans for DG but once we made it clear it required
an addendum to our agreement they stopped talking and moved forward. We are concerned that there appears a close relationship between
TDGA and parks and Recreation. We are concerned that it appears town council was not part of the DG decision
A big thank you for supporting the course. It has been a tremendous success and we believe focusing on irrigation and turf issues to ensure the long
term viability of the course is essential.
I'm in NC BUT will speak via zoom. Let me know if you need any more information
Ray Dissinger
El Con HOA president
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Date: June 19, 2023 at 9:48:52 PM EDT
To: Tony DAngelo
Subject: HOA agreement
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PUSCH RIDGE 9-HOLE GOLF
AGREEMENT
THIS AGREEMENT ("Agreement") is made and entered into by the TOWN OF OROVALLEY,
an Arizona municipal corporation ("the Town") with EL CONQUISTADOR RESORT PATIO
HOMES ASSOCIATION, INC., an Arizona nonprofit corporation ("HOA I"), SHADOWS OF
THE RIDGE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION, an Arizona nonprofit corporation ("HOA 2"),
and SHADOWS OF THE RIDGE AT EL CONQUISTADOR PATIO HOMEOWNERS
ASSOCIATION, an Arizona Nonprofit Corporation ("HOA 3") (collectively "Associations"). In
this document, the Town and the Associations are collectively referred to as the "Parties," and
each is sometimes individually referred to as a "Party."
RECITALS
A. The Town, as of the date of this Agreement, owns and operates three golf courses.
(The "Town Golf Courses").
B. The Town Golf Courses consist of the 18-hole Conquistador Golf Course, 18-hole
Canada Golf Course, and 9-hole Pusch Course.
C. The Associations are homeowner associations with governance authority over
certain real property adjacent to the Pusch Course, including member residences and common
areas.
D. In 2020, the Town considered closing and/or repurposing the 9-hole Pusch
Course.
E. The Associations objected to the Town closing or repurposing the Pusch Course
based on the beauty and uniqueness of the course and the potential negative impact that either
action would have upon their members' property values.
F. The Parties thereafter discussed ways to resolve these differences.
G. Included in these discussions were proposals for the Associations to make
financial contributions to the Town in exchange for the Town continuing to operate the 9-hole
Pusch Course.
H. On February 17, 2021, the Mayor and Council for the Town passed a motion to
continue operating the 9-hole Pusch Course with certain contingencies.
I. One of these contingencies directed Town staff to negotiate with the Associations
for their financial contributions as specifically stated in the minutes of the February 17, 2021
Regular Meeting of the Mayor and Council for the Town.
J. This Agreement is intended to memorialize the Parties' agreements, satisfy the
then stated contingencies, and to avoid future disagreements.
In consideration of the above accurately stated Recitals, the mutual promises and
covenants stated in this Agreement, and other good and valuable consideration, the adequacy of
which is hereby acknowledged, the Parties hereby agree as follows:
AGREEMENT
1. Definitions: For the purposes of this agreement the term "Year" means a "Golf Year" running
from a time to be determined by the Town on or about November 1, to on or about May 1.
2. The Associations' Obligation to the Town: The Associations will annually, for up to five (5)
consecutive years starting on February 1, 2022, pay the Town as delineated in this Section.
After year three (3), continued payment to the Town by the Associations' shall be contingent
upon continued operation of the Pusch Ridge as a golf course as determined by the Oro Valley
Town Council once Town Staff returns with their analysis as required in Section 4 of this
Agreement:
a. El Conquistador Resort Patio Homes, $28,800;
b. Shadows of the Ridge Association 1, $1,950;
c. Shadows of the Ridge El Conquistador Patio Homes, $3,300.
3. The Town, as a reminder, will submit an invoice to the Associations at least thirty (30) days
before each of these annual payments and payment is due as provided above in Section 2, of
this agreement.
4. The Associations will exercise all rights it has under its respective declarations, covenants,
conditions and restrictions and other governing documents including rights to levy
assessments, impose liens, and otherwise collect sufficient funds from the respective
Association members in order to pay this financial obligation to the Town.
5. Town Obligation to Continue Operating the 9-hole Pusch Ridge Course, operated as a
Golf Course: The Town will act in good faith to continue operation of the Pusch Ridge course
as a golf course for three (3) years and up to five (5) years as follows, contingent upon
continued operation of the Pusch Ridge as a golf course as determined by the Oro Valley Town
Council once Town Staff returns with their analysis as required in this Section:
a. The Town will fund through the 0.5% sales tax any ongoing operating deficit less the
agreed contribution from the HOAs for a period of up to five (5) Golf Years, subject
to the provisions of this agreement. If, in any given year that this Agreement is in
effect, the operating deficit of the Pusch Course is zero or the course is able to
generate a profit, the parties agree to meet to consider possible changes to the
Associations' and Town's obligations under this agreement. Any such changes shall
be formalized in accordance with section 14 of this agreement before becoming
enforceable.
b. Should the Town find a Lessee for the Pusch Ridge Course, then this agreement
shall become null and void releasing the parties from performing any of their
obligations and/or obligations as delineated in this agreement. The effective date
for nullification of this agreement under this section shall be the same as the
effective date for the lease of the Pusch Ridge Course to a Lessee.
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c. The Parties agree that outside of any Golf Year, or whenever the Pusch Ridge
Course is otherwise legitimately closed for golf play, the Town agrees to maintain
the Pusch Ridge Course only in a manner that is reasonable and customary for an
Arizona golf course when not open for golf play.
d. The Town will fund ongoing maintenance and the restoration of the course for a
projected opening in fall 2021 on or near November 1, 2021.
e. The Town will oversee the Town's golf management company regarding
management of the operation.
f. The Town will promote the use of the golf course along with its other courses.
g. Nothing in this Agreement limits the Town from expanding golf play outside of any
given Golf Year. On a continuing basis the Town will evaluate the possibility to expand
the operation of the Course but is not obligated to do so.
h. By the end of year three (3), Town Staff shall have evaluated and returned to the Oro
Valley Town Council with an analysis of the continued feasibility, capital improvement
requirements including alternatives for water usage, potential new configurations and
the possibility of a third -party lease for the Pusch Course to determine ongoing Course
feasibility in accordance with Town Council's direction in February and March 2021.
i. If the Oro Valley Town Council decides it is feasible to continue to operate the
Pusch Course as provided in this Section, this Agreement shall remain in full
force and effect for an additional two (2) years.
ii. If the Oro Valley Town Council decides it is no longer feasible to continue to
operate the Pusch Course as provided in this Section, this Agreement shall
terminate immediately relieving the Parties from any further compliance with
the terms and conditions of this Agreement.
6. Security to the Town: The El Conquistador Resort Patio Homes' financial obligation to the
Town is secured by the commitment of its Board of Directors to maintain at least the following
cash balances in a single bank account held by a national banking association doing business
in Pima County, Arizona, and by its further commitment to levy and collect assessments from
its members should there ever during such periods of time be unforeseen conditions causing
or threatening to cause such account to have less funds than as stated:
$30,000.00 between January
$30,000.00 between January
$30,000.00 between January
$30,000.00 between January
$30,000.00 between January
15 2022 and March 31, 2022;
1, 2023 and March 31, 2023;
1, 2024 and March 31, 2024;
15 2025 and March 31, 2025;
1, 2026 and March 31, 2026.
Should the El Conquistador Resort Patio Homes default in their obligations hereunder, the
Town may pursue its remedies including by legal process against such account. The name of
the national banking institution and the account number has been provided to the Town prior
to execution hereof, and the account and institution may be changed by written notice from the
El Conquistador Resort Patio Homes to the Town.
Shadows of the Ridge Association 1's financial obligation to the Town is secured by the
commitment of its Board of Directors to maintain at least the following cash balances in a
single bank account held by a national banking association doing business in Pima County,
Arizona, and by its further commitment to levy and collect assessments from its members
should there ever during such periods of time be unforeseen conditions causing or threatening
to cause such account to have less funds than as stated:
$2,500.00 between January 1, 2022 and March 31, 2022;
$2,500.00 between January 1, 2023 and March 31, 2023;
$2,500.00 between January 1, 2024 and March 31, 2024;
$2,500.00 between January 1, 2025 and March 31, 2025;
$2,500.00 between January 1, 2026 and March 31, 2026.
Should Shadows of the Ridge Association 1 default in its obligations hereunder, the Town may
pursue its remedies including by legal process against such account. The name of the national
banking institution and the account number has been provided to the Town prior to execution
hereof, and the account and institution may be changed by written notice from Shadows of the
Ridge Association 1 to the Town.
Shadows of the Ridge El Conquistador Patio Homes' financial obligation to the Town is
secured by the commitment of its Board of Directors to maintain at least the following cash
balances in a single bank account held by a national banking association doing business in
Pima County, Arizona, and by its further commitment to levy and collect assessments from its
members should there ever during such periods of time be unforeseen conditions causing or
threatening to cause such account to have less funds than as stated:
$3,800.00 between January 1, 2022 and March 31, 2022;
$3,800.00 between January 1, 2023 and March 31, 2023;
$3,800.00, between January 1, 2024 and March 31, 2024;
$3,800.00 between January 1, 2025 and March 31, 2025;
$3,800.00 between January 1, 2026 and March 31, 2026.
Should Shadows of the Ridge El Conquistador Patio Homes default in its obligations
hereunder, the Town may pursue its remedies including by legal process against such account.
The name of the national banking institution and the account number has been provided to the
Town prior to execution hereof, and the account and institution may be changed by written
notice from Shadows of the Ridge El Conquistador Patio Homes to the Town.
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7. Valid Authority to Execute: Each individual signing this Agreement on behalf of an entity
represents and warrants to all of the parties to this Agreement that said individual has the
authority to execute this Agreement and bind the entity.
Moreover, the Associations each represent that they are separately legally authorized to
execute and deliver this Agreement, and all other documents referenced herein, and has all
necessary or required consents necessary to bind it, its members, and any sub -associations it
oversees.
8. Breach: If any of the Parties become aware of a material breach of this Agreement by any
party to this Agreement, it shall promptly notify all non -breaching Parties in writing of the
claimed material breach with reasonable detail. Within thirty (30) calendar days of a claimed
material breach, the parties will jointly meet and communicate with each other in person in a
good faith effort to resolve the claimed material breach, and the party in claimed material
breach has thirty (30) calendar days to cure said breach to the reasonable satisfaction of the
other parties. Failure to timely cure said breach in accordance with this provision allows for
the immediate termination of the entirety of this Agreement. In the event of a material breach
by any of the Parties entitles the non -breaching Party, in its sole discretion, to pursue all legal
rights and claims against the Party in breach, including but not limited to asserting its legal
rights against the Party in breach for the breach and recover damages, enforce security rights,
if any against the breaching Party under paragraph 4, above, and/or terminate this Agreement.
Interest on unpaid or untimely paid monies to the Town shall accrue interest at the prime rate
of interest as published in the Wall Street Journal on the date monies are due plus 3%. Any
breach by the Town would require it to return all payments made by an Association during
the payment year of said breach in a timely manner, or interest will accrue as stated above.
9. Attorney Fees and Costs: If any Party fails to perform any of its obligations under this
Agreement, or if a dispute arises concerning the meaning or interpretation of any provision of
this Agreement, the defaulting party or the party not prevailing in the dispute, as the case
may be, shall pay any and all costs and expenses incurred by the other party in enforcing or
establishing its rights under this Agreement, including, without limitation, taxable court costs
and reasonable attorney fees
10. Information and Cooperation: The Parties agree to provide each other with any
information, documents, and cooperation reasonably requested to fulfill the purpose of this
Agreement. Moreover, each party will, whenever and as often as it shall be reasonably
required by any other party, execute, acknowledge, and deliver, or cause to be executed,
acknowledged, and delivered, such further instruments and documents as may be reasonably
necessary in order to complete the transactions and agreements herein provided and to do any
and all other acts and to acknowledge, execute, and deliver any and all documents which may
be reasonably requested in order to reasonably carry out the intent and purposes of this
Agreement.
11. Construction: This Agreement shall be construed as a whole and in accordance with its fair
meaning and without regard to or considering any presumption or other rule of law requiring
construction against the party preparing this Agreement or any part hereof. If any provision or
term of this Agreement shall be held or determined to be unenforceable, the balance of this
Agreement shall nevertheless continue in full force and effect, unaffected by such holding or
determination. In addition, the waiver of any provision does not constitute a waiver of any
other provision or obligation hereunder.
12. Governing Law: This Agreement is governed, interpreted, and construed in accordance with
the laws of the State of Arizona, without regard to its conflict of laws rules.
13. Venue: Any lawsuit to enforce any provision of this Agreement or to obtain any remedy with
respect to this Agreement shall be brought in the Pima County Superior Court, and for this
purpose the Parties expressly and irrevocably consent to the jurisdiction of the Pima County
Superior Court
14. Modification: The terms of this Agreement cannot be modified except in a writing signed by
the Parties.
15. Captions: The captions and section numbers appearing in this Agreement are inserted only
as a matter of convenience, and do not define, limit, construe or describe the scope or intent
of such sections or articles of this Agreement.
16. Assigns, Representatives, and Successors: This Agreement shall be binding upon and inure
to the benefit of the Parties and their respective successors in interest and assigns; provided,
however, that no assignment of this Agreement shall in any way relieve the assignor of its
obligations under this Agreement.
17. Effective Date/Term/Renewal: This Agreement shall be effective from the date of
execution by all parties, conditioned upon approval of the final terms of this Agreement by
the Town Council. This Agreement shall remain in full force and effect through May 1,
2026, unless sooner terminated as provided herein. This Agreement may be extended only by
written agreement of the Parties. At the Town's election, and with sufficient notice to each
Association prior to the end of the initial Term, the Parties agree to negotiate in good faith for
the purpose of establishing a successor to this Agreement.
18. Complete Agreement: This Agreement is the complete, entire, integrated Agreement
between the Parties and supersedes all prior negotiations, representations, or agreements,
whether written, oral, express, or implied. The Parties, in executing this Agreement, did not
rely on any statement, representation, or warranty except as expressly set forth in this
Agreement.
19. Counterparts and Signatures: This Agreement may be executed in multiple counterparts,
each of which shall, for all purposes, be deemed an original and all of which, taken together,
shall constitute one and the same agreement. In addition, facsimile or otherwise
electronically scanned signatures are deemed to be sufficient and originals. The date the last
party signs this document is the date of execution.
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20. Force Majeure: Notwithstanding any other term, condition, or provision hereof to the
contrary, in the event any party hereto is precluded from satisfying or fulfilling any duty or
obligation imposed upon such party by the terms hereof due to labor strikes, material
shortages, war, civil disturbances, weather conditions, natural disasters, acts of God, or other
events beyond the control of such party, the time period provided herein for the performance
by such party of such duty or obligation shall be extended for a period equal to the delay
occasioned by such events.
BY SIGNING BELOW, THE PARTIES WARRANT AND AGREE THAT THEY
HAVE READ ALL OF THIS AGREEMENT, FULLY UNDERSTAND THE
CONTENTS AND EFFECT OF THIS AGREEMENT, AND THAT THEY
APPROVE OF AND VOLUNTARILY ACCEPT THE TERMS AND
PROVISIONS OF THIS AGREEMENT.
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TOWN OF ORO VALLEY, an Arizona municipal corporation
ATTEST:
Michael Standish, Town Clerk
Date
By: Mary Jacobs, Town Manager, as Authorized.
Date: , 2021.
Mary Jacobs
APPROVED AS TO FORM:
Tobin Sidles, Legal Services Director
Date
EL CONQUISTADOR RESORT PATIO HOMES ASSOCIATION
By: , as Authorized.
Date: , 2021.
SHADOWS OF THE RIDGE ASSOCIATION 1
By: _
Date:
2021.
, as Authorized.
SHADOWS OF THE RIDGE EL CONQUISTADOR PATIO HOMES ASSOCIATION
By: , as Authorized.
Date: , 2021.
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Stine, Michelle
From: Sirois, Andrea
Sent: Friday, June 23, 2023 2:38 PM
To: Standish, Michael, Stine, Michelle
Subject: FW: Thanks for Supporting FOPRG & PRGC
FYI
Sincerely,
Andrea Sirois
Executive Assistant
Town Manager, Mayor and Council
Town of Oro Valley
Direct Line: 520-229-4714
From: Vescio, Niranjai
Sent: Friday, June 23, 2023 12:58 PM
To: Town Council <council@orovalleyaz.gov>
Cc: Tony D'Angelo
Subject: Thanks for Supporting FOPRG & PRGC
Dear Mayor and Council:
We all heard lots of statements at last Wednesday's town council meeting about what is, what might be, and what
should be happening with golf (ball and disc) at Pusch Ridge Golf Course (PRGC). Thanks for patiently listening to
everyone impartially and working transparently and democratically to pass a summary motion.
To quote Andrew Young, "there can be no truth without controversy and there can be no democracy without
truth." We had more than our share of controversy at the meeting about the financial performance of the
PRGC. Might we all benefit from official financial statements issued by the Town stating the truth about the past 2
years of ball and disc golf at PRGC? While some will still challenge the veracity of those financial statements, many
more will be informed, heading into the final year of Council's 3-year trial, about what it takes to keep PRGC self-
sustaining.
We have all heard that it ultimately comes down to water, and that summer ball golf at PRGC is just cost -
prohibitive. Then there is the sheer image of spraying potable water to keep grass green in triple -digit temperatures
that evokes public outrage. Last year the Council received a ballpark estimate of—$6-11M from our Water Utility
Director, Peter Abraham, to extend reclaimed water lines to the PRGC and along Oracle Road to other outdoor venues
currently relegated to using potable water for irrigation. Is Council still anticipating a 10%-design cost estimate from
the Water Utility for the extension of reclaimed water to PRGC and beyond? Having that estimate would not only help
address next steps for PRGC after the 3-year trial is complete, but also Oro Valley's long-term water sourcing strategy
amidst the on -going drought. The latter is of particular interest to me.
Finally, in exchange for leaving up to 30,000 acre feet in Lake Mead, Tucson will receive $7.8 million from the Bureau of
Reclamation. Like Tucson, OV stores and recharges a large fraction of its full CAP allocation. Is OV considering a
voluntary exchange of some of its CAP allocation for cash like Tucson?
The Friends of Pusch Ridge Golf (FOPRG) remain steadfastly committed to supporting and promoting ball golf at the
PRGC and its uniquely appealing green space. The growing number of ball golf rounds played the past two years affirms
what we believed was a resurgence of the sport's popularity across a broad demographic, and that our unique 9-hole
venue around the resort and at the base of beautiful Pusch Ridge offers patrons so much more than just a relaxed
golfing experience. Even after 22 years of continuous year-round residence on the course, this area's unique charm and
beauty continue to inspire me each and every day to work tirelessly to help maintain its majesty beauty for all to enjoy,
including our newfound disc golf patrons.
Thanks again to members of Council that support our advocacy and volunteering efforts. Challenges, disruptions, even
the occasional incivility, will only make our community partnerships stronger.
Sincerely,
Niranjan Vesdo
Chairman, Friends of Pusch Ridge Golf
Commissioner, Oro Valley Water Utility
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From: Standish, Michae
Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2023 4:49 PM
To: Stine, Michelle
Subject: FW: Disc Golf at Pusch Ridge
-----Original Message -----
From: Ray Dissenger
Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2023 3:29 PM
To: Barrett, Melanie <mbarrett@orovalleyaz.gov>; Solomon, Steve <ssolomon@orovalleyaz.gov>; Jones -Ivey, Joyce
<jjones-ivey@orovalleyaz.gov>; Greene, Harry <hgreene@orovalleyaz.gov>; Nicolson, Josh <jnicolson@orovalleyaz.gov>;
Bohen, Timothy <tbohen@orovalleyaz.gov>; Winfield, Joe <jwinfield@orovalleyaz.gov>
Cc: Standish, Michael <mstandish@orovalleyaz.gov>
Subject: Disc Golf at Pusch Ridge
Mayor Winfield and Council Members,
I apologize for the lateness of the email. I'm in NC and was prepared to speak tonight via zoom. When I checked for my
Zoom link with the town clerk, he explained that residents can only speak on public hearing agenda items. My mistake
for not checking sooner.
I'm Ray Dissinger a 25 year Oro Valley resident and currently President of the El Con Patio Homes HOA. I spoke at the
June 7th call to audience. I'm sure you have received plenty of information reference disc golf. I won't rehash everything.
Bottom line: We are not necessarily opposed to disc golf
BUT believe it clearly requires Town Council approval AND an addendum to the Pusch Ridge 9 hole Golf course
agreement. Disc golf is not golf as referenced in our agreement. If we played a game with lacrosse sticks or field hockey
sticks and labeled them lacrosse golf or field hockey golf it does not make them golf. Anything other than golf is a
change of use and requires your approval and an addendum. Any addendum must include disc golf as a summer 2023
only event, no disc golf during year three of our agreement and if the town is interested in disc golf they need to explore
other venues.
I think the important point is that we could have solved this issue with better communications between the HOAs and
town staff. We were brought into the discussion late. We worked with staff and had resolved 90% of issues of safety and
security. Our neighborhood has many retired residents and many part time residents. Based on our request to codify our
discussion with a written addendum to our agreement, town staff moved forward without our concurrence.
We believe time would have been better spent looking into turf and irrigation issues to support the long term
sustainability of the Pusch Ridge course.
The course has been a tremendous success and we hope to continue to work as a partner with the town of Oro Valley to
capitalize of this unique town asset. We appreciate the Town Council decision to reopen the course and your continued
support.
Thankyou
Ray Dissinger
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Stine, Michelle
From: Standish, Michael
Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2023 2:52 PM
To: Stine, Michelle
Subject: FW: Vistoso Trails Nature Preserve ADA trails opposition letter
Attachments: Opposition letter to ADA trails on Vistoso Trails Preserve open space 6 21 2023.pdf
From: Sirois, Andrea <asirois@orovalleyaz.gov>
Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2023 2:42 PM
To: Standish, Michael <mstandish@orovalleyaz.gov>
Subject: FW: Vistoso Trails Nature Preserve ADA trails opposition letter
FYI
Sincerely,
Andrea Sirois
Executive Assistant
Town Manager, Mayor and Council
Town of Oro Valley
Direct Line: 520-229-4714
From -
Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2023 1:05 PM
To: Town Council <council@orovaIleyaz.gov>
Cc
Subject: Vistoso Trails Nature Preserve ADA trails opposition letter
Dear Mayor and Council Members,
Attached is a letter for tonight's council meeting regarding the Vistoso Trails Nature Preserve
presentation drawings and proposal.
Please read and take its message to heart!
Thank you.
Bruce and Ginny Baier
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Bruce and Ginny Baier
June 21, 2023
Mayor Winfield, Town Council Members, and Kirste Kowalsky of The Conservation Fund
Subject: Firm Opposition to Proposed ADA Trails Contravening Conservation Easement
Dear Mayor Winfield, Town Council Members, and Kirste Kowalsky of The Conservation Fund:
I hope this letter finds you well, and I trust it resonates with the compassion and determination
that lie at the heart of our community. I am writing to express my heartfelt concerns regarding
the proposed ADA trails on the former driving range of the Vistoso Golf Course. As passionate
stewards of our natural heritage, we must stand firm against any actions that circumvent the
Conservation Easement, which safeguards the preservation of our beloved Vistoso Trails Nature
Preserve.
The transfer of the Nature Preserve from The Conservation Fund to the Town of Oro Valley was
made possible by the unwavering support of our community. Through their generous
contributions of community members, amounting to an impressive $1.8 million plus the Town's
contributions, The Conservation Fund was able to acquire this property. The Conservation
Easement was put in place to ensure the perpetual protection of this land, with specific
limitations that we must honor.
Our Nature Preserve is a sanctuary, offering over 6 miles of paths that provide breathtaking
views of the Catalina and Tortolita Mountains, a haven for diverse desert vegetation, and a
thriving habitat for abundant wildlife. It is a testament to our commitment to preserving the
beauty of our natural surroundings for generations to come.
However, former and recent designs presented by Sites Southwest in opposition to the Executive
Summary of the Conservation Easement have raised significant concerns. While the
Conservation Easement permits dirt trails "immediately adjacent to the cart path or immediately
adjacent to existing disturbed areas," the elaborate system of trails proposed on the former
driving range attempts to circumvent the very essence and intent of the Conservation Easement.
This cannot be ignored or taken lightly.
We steadfastly oppose and reject these drawings and intentions that flagrantly disregard the
Conservation Easement's stipulations. We reject any additional path system behind homes along
Tessali Way, encroaching upon the intended open space area. Although the proposed trails may
be labeled as ADA trails, their true nature and purpose remain incongruous with the
Conservation Easement. This discrepancy cannot be masked by mere words or naming
conventions.
Let us instead concentrate our efforts on enhancing the existing 6 miles of trails and ensuring
their harmonious coexistence with the stated and intended use. By investing in the preservation
and enhancement of these trails, we can create a lasting legacy that respects both the
Conservation Easement and the accessibility needs of our community.
I implore you to reflect upon the passion and devotion our community holds for the Vistoso
Trails Nature Preserve. Engage in open, transparent dialogue with community stakeholders,
environmental experts, and concerned citizens who share a common goal of safeguarding the
integrity of our precious natural spaces. Together, we can find a solution that upholds the spirit
of the Conservation Easement while addressing the accessibility requirements of all.
Thank you for your unwavering commitment to our community and the preservation of our
natural heritage. May our collective efforts inspire a future where the beauty of the Vistoso Trails
Nature Preserve is cherished and protected, in accordance with the Conservation Easement.
With heartfelt sincerity,
Bruce and Ginny Baier
Stine, Michelle
From: Standish, Michael
Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2023 2:35 PM
To: Stine, Michelle
Subject: FW: Request to Speak in -Person
Attachments: Disc Golf Statement to Council - June 21 2023.docx
From: Vescio, Niranjan
Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2023 2:13 PM
To: Standish, Michael <mstandish@orovalleyaz.gov>
Subject: RE: Request to Speak in -Person
Thank you Michael,
I will try to arrive by 6:30pm, but just in case, attached is my statement to the Town Council if you don't mind
forwarding to them.
Thanks.
Niranjan
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Niranjan Vescio, 22-year resident of OV along the PRGC.
The opinions expressed here are mine, not the Friends, not the HOAs.
Over 2 years ago, Council's decision to restore PRGC to its originally
designed use as a ball golf course and accept HOA subsidies during the
3-year trial, was Council's alone. That decision by this legislative branch
of our Town government was made transparently in Open meetings and
is now public record.
Because of that precedent, in my opinion, any decision on alternate use
during this trial period, should once again have been Council's alone.
You're the elected body directly accountable to the Town-s voters. The
decision is then public record and can be referenced in the Town-HOA
contract for subsidies.
But what's done is done, disc golf has started for the summer at PRGC
and here is what your homeowners are saying...
1. Why was DG introduced without direct HOA involvement
throughout the process? Just telling us is not involving us.
2. Homeowners did not sign-up at $150/year/lot to subsidize DG.
3. PRGC is not a place for DG since valuable discs can end up in
people yards.
I wanted to investigate this last point more since there isn't a lot of
precedent for disc golf so close to homes:
a. This is a frisbee.
b. This is a DG disc.
c. The frisbee is thrown and caught from 30ft to 50 ft away.
d. This DG driver is thrown hard and fast to reach hundreds of
feet further ... and never caught.
I tried it myself and found discs quite a bit more unforgiving than
frisbees. Discs are aerodynamically designed to be projectiles, so when
thrown on a plane that doesn't purely cut through the air, but instead
catches it, the disc can veer quite far off target. In wind, which is
frequent on PRGC, all this is greatly exacerbated.
I'll cut to the chase, these discs will end up in yards/patios, especially
when thrown from elevation, uphill and in wind. Players will want to
retrieve them; I have seen it happen for myself. But here is the point:
had we all sat down together after a Council decision to proceed with a
DG this summer, I know we could have come up with a safe and
assured way for these valuable discs to be returned to players,
discouraging any from even considering trespassing. To be clear, I am
working towards sustainable year-round ball golf at PRGC. But had we
worked together as partners from the beginning, we could have rolled -
out a Council -directed summer DG test, with far less surprise and
uproar that what we have experienced.
Stine, Michelle
From: Standish, Michael
Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2023 1:27 PM
To: Stine, Michelle
Subject: FW: Pusch Ridge golf course usage for off season disc golf
From: Walt Gallaghe
Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2023 11:11 AM
To: Standish, Michael <mstandish@orovalleyaz.gov>
Subject: Pusch Ridge golf course usage for off season disc golf
Mr. Standish,
Please forward the contents of this email to the city council members and staff.
RE: The continued usage of Pusch Ridge golf course for off season disc golf play.
As a 17 year homeowner at the El Conquistador Patio Homes I have witness the full range of
experience for our special nine hole golf course. From green to brown and back. From well -
maintained to neglected to somewhat maintained. From a caring and knowledgeable owner to
uninterested owner to a the a less than focused or fiscally prioritized city council. The stats over the
past two years prove that this course can generate income for the city. There is no reason to think
that will change in the near future. More and more large venue golf destinations are including nine
hole courses. They are less time consuming and far more inclusive to players of differing abilities.
That's my pitch for golf at PRGC. As for disc golf at PRGC I'm not opposed but that is tempered with
I'm not that comfortable either. I'm not comfortable with stories of disc players venturing into our (El
Conquistador Patio Homes) properties to retrieve wayward discs or the apparent lack of concern for
the greens and the careless disregard for disposal of liquid containers and paper. All of these
concerns are rarely, if ever, an issue with golfers. It should be, needs to be, the same for the disc
community.
In order to move forward with disc play on PRGC I believe that the city needs to make some changes.
1. A player must agree that they can not enter a fenced property without permission of an owner
or an available neighbor. Without that permission only a representative of the staff at the
PRGC can retrieve the errant disc.
2. Greens should be roped off and only walked on when a disc must be retrieved.
3. Waste containers need to be maintained and "no littering" messages need to be posted in the
pro shop.
Thank you for opportunity to voice my opinions.
Respectfully,
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Stine, Michelle
From: Standish, Michael
Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2023 9:04 AM
To: Stine, Michelle
Subject: FW: Request to Speak Virtually
Attachments: Disc Golf.docx
From: Stan New
Sent: Monday, June 19, 2uz3 11:06 AM
To: Standish, Michael <mstandish@orovalleyaz.gov>
Cc:
Subject: Re: Request to Speak Virtually
Hi Mike,
Can you please distribute this comment to the mayor and town council prior to the meeting.
Thanks,
Stan New
My name is Stan New. I am a winter resident and run the men's league at Pusch Ridge. I believe disc golf has a place in
Oro Valley and understand the desire to offer more outdoor sports, however Pusch Ridge is not the best place. A better
venue would be at one of the parks in Oro Valley, where it could be offered as a year-round activity.
The friends, neighbors & golfers have worked hard for the last 2 years to prove the viability of golf at this town's unique
asset. It is not a financial burden and provides a wonderful opportunity to introduce golf to our youth and provide access
for seniors and others who don't have the time or ability to tackle an 18-hole course.
We have 1 year left to prove that Pusch Ridge is a real golf course and deserves consideration from the town to address
its long term needs. What are the 700 plus friends and 4 active golf leagues supposed to think about disc golf as a
summer test, when permanent concrete basket foundations have been installed around the course. Looks like you are
planning to turn your gem of a golf course into a disc golf park.
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On Jun 19, 2023, at 11:41 AM, Standish, Michael <mstandish@orovalleyaz.gov> wrote:
Good Morning,
The Town has received your request to speak virtually at the June 21 Town Council meeting. Per Town
policy, members of the public are allowed to speak virtually on any agenda item listed as a Public
Hearing. The item that you would like to speak on does not contain a Public Hearing. You may still speak
at Call to the Audience by attending the meeting in -person and submitting a blue speaker card.
Thank you.
Mike Standish, CMC
Town Clerk
Town of Oro Valley
520-229-4741
mstandish(a orovalleyaz.gov
My name is Stan New. I am a winter resident and run the men's league at Pusch Ridge. I believe
disc golf has a place in Oro Valley and understand the desire to offer more outdoor sports,
however Pusch Ridge is not the best place. A better venue would be at one of the parks in Oro
Valley, where it could be offered as a year-round activity.
The friends, neighbors & golfers have worked hard for the last 2 years to prove the viability of
golf at this town's unique asset. It is not a financial burden and provides a wonderful
opportunity to introduce golf to our youth and provide access for seniors and others who don't
have the time or ability to tackle an 18-hole course.
We have 1 year left to prove that Pusch Ridge is a real golf course and deserves consideration
from the town to address its long term needs. What are the 700 plus friends and 4 active golf
leagues supposed to think about disc golf as a summer test, when permanent concrete basket
foundations have been installed around the course. Looks like you are planning to turn your
gem of a golf course into a disc golf park.
Stine, Michelle
From: Standish, Michael
Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2023 9:03 AM
To: Stine, Michelle
Subject: FW: Request to Speak Virtually
From: jeannee yermakc
Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2023 7:06 AM
To: Standish, Michael <mstandish@orovalleyaz.gov>
Cc:
Subject: Re: Request to Speak Virtually
Michael - I would greatly appreciate it if you would forward my comments below to the Council as well. I am also unable
to attend the meeting.
My name is Jeannee Yermakoff. I am a resident of the El Con Patio Homes and run the Thursday women's
league at Pusch Ridge. I would like to comment on 1) the process for establishing disc golf at Pusch Ridge
and 2) on plans to maintain Pusch Ridge Golf Course for traditional golf.
1) When the El Con Patio Homes HOA agreed to contribute financially to traditional golf at Pusch Ridge, they
became a stakeholder in the course. While this does not entitle the HOA to manage the course, one would
think it would earn the right to be informed of key management decisions. While Parks and Recreation held
meetings to plan the introduction of disc golf for more than a year, our HOA was kept in the dark. This is
wrong. We are now, indirectly, supporting summer disc golf, although we had no input into this decision.
2) We are two years in to a three-year commitment to maintain traditional golf at Pusch Ridge. In those two
years, the course has greatly exceeded goals for rounds of play and income. This does not surprise me.
Women in the Thursday league come from all over Oro Valley (and as far as the Catalina Foothills and Dove
Mountain). Players range in age from young women to 90+ year -olds. They drive to Pusch Ridge on Thursday
morning because it is the only course in Oro Vally available for 9-hole play in the morning hours. These
women say they opt for 9-holes at Pusch Ridge due to time constraints, physical limitations, skill level,
affordability and/or simply because they love the course. These players have a vested interest in continued
traditional golf at Pusch Ridge. They, and I, believe it is time to hear a commitment from Oro Valley on plans
to continue traditional golf at Pusch Ridge.
Thank you for your continued attention to these matters
Jeannee Yermakoff
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Stine, Michelle
From:
Sirois, Andrea
Sent:
Friday, June 23, 2023 2:27 PM
To:
Standish, Michael
Cc:
Stine, Michelle
Subject:
FW: Call to Audience Comments
Follow Up Flag: Follow up
Flag Status: Flagged
FYI
From: Edward Clan
Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2023 8:38 PM
To: Greene, Harry <hgreene@orovalleyaz.gov>
Subject: Call to Audience Comments
Good Evening Dr Greene,
I had intended to attend this evening's Council Meeting and address you and your colleagues during Call to Audience,
but unfortunately, due to unforeseen circumstance, at the last minute I was unable to attend. I'd like to pass on the
comments I had intended to make. As always, thank you for your attention and your service to Oro Valley.
Respectfully,
Ed Clary
"Good Evening Mayor Winfield and members of the Council.
My name is Ed Clary, and I'm a resident of Oro Valley.
Today I'd like to discuss the application of zoning codes in our Town. My wife and I are trying to build an external garage/storage
building on our property. We recently submitted a building design for permitting, which turns out to be in violation of zoning code -
its apex is a couple feet too high. This is the contractor's doing, but in an attempt to minimize the impact of the situation, I spoke
directly to Zoning staff. I was told that the design would require a variance or waiver in its current form. I inquired what I would
need to do. The answer was a very professional, "Well a variance is if you cannot meet code for some reason, and that's not the
case here, your design certainly could meet code, so in theory we would need to examine a waiver, but we never grant any waivers
of this specific type." I was a bit surprised by the immediacy and finality of the statement, and said, "Never?" to be answered again
with "Never."
Discussion over, lock, stock and barrel. Honestly, in and of itself, this doesn't bother me — there are zoning codes for a reason, and
all should abide by them, even if, as in our case, the building in question will not even be visible from our street and even the only
neighbor who would see it does not object to it in any way in its current form. That said, we will redesign to meet code, the mistake
was unintentional; that was always our intent!
But, this begs a really big question. Why, if I, as just a regular citizen of Oro Valley who wishes to improve my property in such a way
which literally effects NO ONE other than as described above - why does the Oro Valley Church of the Nazarene get innumerable
attempts to rezone their property in such a manner that is vigorously opposed by all their neighbors who are not congregants, as
well as an expanding number of community groups and blogs, which demonstrably reduces the property values and quality of life of
their neighbors, and which the P&Z commission itself voted down as incompatible with its neighborhood? It doesn't pass the
common sense or basic fairness tests.
The rumor mill has it that the Council is being legally advised that they must acquiesce to OVCN's demands, as there are possible
conflicts with federal law in regards to religious exclusions. There are good lawyers on the other side of the story who say that while
OVCN may have a basis to make such a claim, (meaning it won't be summarily dismissed) it is by NO means a done deal
legally. Every right in our society has limits, aka -15t Amendment notwithstanding, you can't shout "fire" in a crowded
theater. Common sense dictates that OVCN's assertion that a sports complex is required to exercise their religion, at the expense of
their neighbors certainly tests the limits of any sort of religious exemption allowance. So, in the absence of a clear legal path,
despite what you might be being told, I respectfully submit that should the OVCN project ever come before you for a vote, you
simply do the right thing. Vote it down — it simply isn't the right location for such a project. Neighbors know it, P&Z staff know it,
the P&Z Commission knows it, and I think you probably do too. Don't be intimidated. Don't buy in to OVCN's assertions that the
"neighborhood has changed" and therefore justifies this — the only significant change to this neighborhood in the last 20+ years has
been OVCN's previous expansions! Treat OVCN as you do all other citizens/entities in this Town, and hold them to the same rules
that all the rest are required to follow, and who are told, "we never grant any waivers of this specific type."
Respectfully,
Ed (& Martina) Clary
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