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Home My WebLink AboutMinutes - Oro Valley Fire Advisory Committee - 5/26/1999 I.� _•,1 �� S � � ' ,��, MIl�TTJT�S OF T�IE �; � ORO VALLEY FII� A1)VISORY COMMIT�'EE \� 1VIay 26, 1999 ORO VALLEY TO�'VN COiJl�TCIL CHAIVIBEI�S � 11,000 N. I�A CAI�TADA DRIVE CALI. T"O ORDERo 10 a 3 0 aomo 1ZOI�I.� CA�L PR�SENT: Jan I�vancz9 Cha��an Ron I�oslovvski, Vice Chairn�an Herb Ru�t, IVlernber Fred 1!✓IcCul�och9 �/Iernber J.J.1�Torthan9 Mernber ABSEI�TTe 1'aul Parisi9 �o�Council Mernber STAFF PRESENT: Chuck Sv�reet9 To�1Vlanager Linda�Iersha9 Admgnistration Secretary I�an I�udley9 T'o�A�torney � Terry�Iossler, ��.ild�n� Official � OTHERS PRESENT: Chief Johri Fink, Golder Rarich Fire Department {`J � , Assista.nt Fire C�iief, Golder Ranch Fire Department �,�-� Donna,Aversa, Legal�Representative for Golder Ranch Wayne S. Shank, Fire Captain Southern AZ Operations Rural/�Vletro Fire I�epartment Capta�n John. Sullivan, Golder Ranch Fire Department Public Infog-rnation Officer 1. Review/discussion of D�aft]�eport Presented by ESCG on May 17�h, and Contract especially �elatin�to future station locations. Jan Kvancz, Chair stated that the Fire Advisory Committee (F�C) was disappointed in some of the meetings being held without the�.AC in attendance and proceeded to read a letter froln the�AC regarding their concerns o • The FAC is disappointed we vvere not invited to attend meetings with ESCG � and fire departments. Consequently we vvere not kept abreast of what was happening. It is our understanding the R/M did not wish to have FAC present at fire department meetin�s, stating we are biasede • Since June 24, �l 997 when FAC first began this proj ect the attitude of R/M toward the committee has been to evade answers when requesting specific ; ` �, information. The same tactic has been used vvhen working with ESCG. R/M ��--' has challenged the veracity of th� first report compiled by ESCG. George 3 r� 1VIay 26, 1999 1VIII�TLJTES, FI1Z1E A��IISO�� COIVIIVIITTEE � 2 � . -, Good of R:/M states in the�l�aily Sta�°a�ticle da.ted Septernber 2, 1998, � � �� "We felt it vvas a ver� slanted report9 �t�as xnisleading9 it vvas incoinplete99. , ` �Ie stated the company gav� erroneous�nforrnation to the consultants at first but vvas not allowed to co�ect it. 1Zf1�/I�as given rnany oppo�tun�ties to correct their information bu�once again did noto Sounds like shell garrie to this committee. • �'his same scenar�o has been played out a�ain when the consultants gave R/M their recent projectso �'h� Strate�ic Pl�,n�ast page does not have correct inforrnation for R/1VI as the� did x�o��upply ito One example, 6G90"of � responses are made vvithin X rninutea99 1�/IVI did not bother to research and calculate this data but instead used a conlputer program to arr�ve at their � answero R/1VI has many wron� answe�� on the last page that necessitates the consultants to spend extra with thern cYur�ng this latest round of inforrnation �athering for the Strategic Plans They�have also requested that the first xeport be �.dj usted fox ansvvers e • This is typical of vvhat has been transpix�ng since day one of the Comtnittee's pxojecto So are we biased a��.��st ROM? �iven the evasive, �nco�-rect answers and the stall tactics erriployed by I�f�I��ht up to this date, any cornrnittee would not trust R/M for inforYnation presented and would definitely become biaseds If R/M had wanted to be a true team player as they have insisted they ; � wanted to be,then all infornlation given would have been factual the first � � � � � time. �'V�e vvould�not have had to waste so inuch tinle trying to elicit � � � ,, r . �� information from theins This is just another ploy by R/M to delay ESCG � �� findings and Council act�on�t�l �/1VI a�pears in a more favorable light in the �� . 11�X�re�JJ01"�te 2. Review/discussion of Oro Valley Fire Services "Summary of Selected performance 1Vleasures and�enchmarks" as outlined by ESCG on • �a. 1 gthe � . Chair Kvancz stated that she had some questions under the heading "1�dditional Information needed from Rural/Metro" item#3. She added that when identifying the revenues, the�AC felt it should be identified as either; going to a fire who is a non- subscriber or other for whatever the other chaxges�vould bes She stated that under the heading "Additional Infor�nation Needed Frorn Golder Ranch"item#2 should also be included in Rural/Metro's questionnairee Vice Chair Koslowski stated the on page 1 "Summary of Selected Performance Obi ectives and Tar�ets" item#1 should read"rnininlum number of qualified personnel assigned to engine and ladder companies shal�be 4". He added the iterns#4 and#5 should be claxified as to when the response time will start. � , , , �� ` 1VIay 269 1999 IVIII�TIJTES, �'Il��D�IISORY COIVIIVIITTEE 3 - In answer to question from Town IVI�.na�er C�uck Svveet, Chief Firil�explained that the �� EMS tirneline is about 1 S to 30 secondse �-Ie stated tY�at it depends on the repo�ting partye He added that the delays are rriinirriale �Tice Chair Y�oslowsk� stated that itern#79 needs to�e re�ised to state that this �s to be accon�plished in a reasonable a,mour�t of ti�eo Chief�iril{addxessed the issue of havin� ded�c�.�ed engines units for the Towri of Oro '�alley only and stated that this issue s�ould be discussed in rnore detail in respect to de�'inition and refinemento He added that th�s wou�d be an impossible task for Golder Ranch and possibly I�uxal/1Vletro to rx�eete �l�ce Cha�r I�oslowsk� suggested that the f re a�encies get together and present a plan tha��vould possibly be vvorkable for the groupe � Vice Chair Koslowski suggested that under 66Addit�onal information needed frorn Rural/Metro�9 itetn#29 should include Ha�1VIat calise Consensus o T'he Committee agreed that the 66Actio�Plan and Timel�nes991ooks good�f ESCG does not charge the towri for thei�° serv�ces. Chuck Svveet9 Tovvn 1V�anager announced�hat the next meeting would be held with the Focus Group on June 21, 1999 withou�ESCG. , � Consensus: The Fire Adviso Con�ittee will o before the Town Council on Jul 19th � g y � � with their presentation along with ESCG and the Focus Group. 1�11 were in agreement , ��---�� vvith the changes�that vvere xnade�. � � � � � � 3. Status of Oro Val�ley�Comn��nications PSAP Center to dispatch�Fire � � � � � � & EMS as recommea�decl in ESCG report of September 9, 1998, � � page 41� � � � � � � In�answer to a question�from C�huck Svveet, Chief Fink stated that it vvould not�be a � �� problem to gatlher information reflectin�the rxiost recent EMS calls, but that there would � � � � � be problems because of the difference in the clocks between Rural/Metro and Golder� � Rancha Mr. Sweet xequested that the fire agenc�es pro�ide a report on the last 10 calls for review at the next meeting on June 21 St to get a better co�cept of the timeline. 4e Revie�v of rate data for Fire � E1VIS services, by Golder Ranch Fire District, and Rural/1Vletro F�re 1)epartment provided to ESCG on the same squaxe footagee Chair Kvancz distributed and reviewed the "Comparison Data on Square Footage & � Assessed Value of Pro�erties". She added that she had gathered this information for � ESCG. , ,, ��% � � � � IVIay 269 1999 1VI�TES, FIl�AI��IIS�I�Y COIVIIi�I7C�'EE 4 ; In ansvver to question from Vice Chair I�oslo�rski9 Chief Finl�9 Golder l�anch Fire !, __ ;� I�epart�nent stated that there is no addit�ona�char�e for�Iaz 1VIat. �Vayne Shank, Rural/1Vletro �ire Captain was unable to answe�°the questione Vice Chair I�oslovvski stated that people should be advised that there could be an additional cost for Haz Mat. � Chair K�ancz stated that she�vould rnake suxe tha�this information is g��en to the Focus Group as�vell as to the�Commit�eee ` S� Status of ESCG anlendnl�n�to Appea�cl�x I) 1Vlatrix(page 52-89) of original(September 199�) �°eporto In ansvver to a questior�.frorn Chair I�vancz, lVlro Svveet stated that he did not have any recent up �.ates at the present tinle, but that he has spoken w�th IVIre Snook, who infornled hirn that the arriendment should be concluded��h�ne�t vveek or tvvo e 6e l�esponse of Tovvn Attora�ey to questions submitted by Chuck Svveet regarding Fire& El�So Dan Dudley, Tovvr�Attorney distrib�.ted and rev�ewed the ynemo regardin� "Le�al Opinion"which consisted of the foll�wing topics: . - 1) ST�'�EGIC�PLA�T�Ol�FIRE AIeT� Ell�[S SERVICES � 2) FO�IATIOI�T O� TOV�►II�T-�VII�E�I�DISTRICT' > 1VIre I�udley stated that the town could consider an ordinance, contract ox a combination. In answer to question from Chair I�vancz, �Irs Sweet stated that once these standards are � implemented,the committee could recoxnnlend appointing someone or a group to review what happens on a monthly or quarterly basis and report back to Council. He added that the FAC should submit a recommendatior�to the Council, and a draft ordinance that would adopt the Strategic Plan, standards, establish the review mechanism and penalties. He stated that the ordinarice is the best way to go as opposed to entering into individual �/O�t��V��e � In answer to question from Member 1Zut�, 1VIr. SWeet stated that he was unware of any studies done to establish a fire department for the �'own of Oro Valley. Member McCulloch asked if the people would be able to have a vote in the Town of Oro Valley as to whether to stay status quo or to have one fre department? 1VIr. Dudley stated that the generally the pow�r of xeferendum exists in Arizona,therefore, you have that potential power. � � �r ,\ � „ • ` 1VIay 26, 1999 Il�III�TtJTES, FI�A1��IISOR� COliiIIV�ITTEE 5 " ' AD.TOTJI�TME1�'I� �- There being no f�.rther business befor�the Co��t�e,the unar�imous consensus vvas to �A.��O�� !1 e o o��e b R�spec�fu.11y submit�ed, � �, . L�nda�Iexsha9 Adrninistrative Secretary __�.- .