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BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT
INFORMATION AND ORIENTATION MEETING
STUDY SESSION
JANUARY 26, 2001
COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT
11,000 N. LA CANADA DRIVE
ORO VALLEY, ARIZONA
CALL TO ORDER at 2:10 p.m.
PRESENT:
Henry Suozzi, Chairman
Bill Adler, Vice Chairman
James Swan, Member
Lyra Done, Member arrived at 3:05 p.m.
Cindy Lewis, Member
STAFF:
Kathryn Cuvelier, Town Clerk
Dan Dudley, Town Attorney
Bryant Nodine,Planning and Zoning Administrator
Dee Widero, Senior Zoning Inspector
Debbie Moran, Zoning Tech.
Susan Baczkiewicz, Civil Paralegal
Linda Hersha, Secretary II
1. APPROVAL OF MINUTES—DECEMBER 19, 2000 STUDY SESSION
MOTION: A motion was made by Vice Chairman Adler to continue the Study Session
meeting minutes of December 19, 2001 with the correction noted to the next regularly
schedule meeting or Study Session meeting. Motion Seconded by Member Lewis.
ROLL CALL VOTE
Chairman Suozzi—yes
Vice Chairman Adler—yes
Member Lewis—yes
Member Swan—yes
Motion carried, 4-0.
2. BOARD RULES (IF ANY), SELECTION OF MEMBERS, BOARD
COMPOSITION,ETC.
Chairman Suozzi stated that the Riggins Rules detailed some suggested rules and asked if
the Board wanted to review any of the rules that were listed.
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Vice Chairman Adler referenced Riggins Rules #29 (DO NOT FAIL TO GIVE A
REASON when making a motion for approval OR denial of an applicant's request. If
you fail to do this, the applicant, any objectors, a reviewing body of higher authority of
the COURTS may well assume that your decision was an arbitrary one not supported by
the facts and should be reversed. Always mention the staff recommendation.) He
explained that at the previous meeting, there was divided opinion as to whether the
members should be requested to give a reason for the vote or not, and have a document
developed by the Department of Commerce which was not included in the Board of
Adjustment (BOA)Handbook. He explained that the article recommends that the Board
Member should give an explanation for his or her findings. He suggested that the when
having a meeting for the purpose of adopting rules, there should be an agenda. He said
that his second question in connection with rules was if they required the swearing in of
the applicants and witnesses.
Dan Dudley, Town Attorney stated that it was not a requirement under state law, to swear
in the applicants and witnesses but suggested that the concept not be waived. He further
explained that there was no required oath for swearing in the applicants and witnesses.
He explained that the language for oath is somewhat standardized.
Vice Chairman Adler suggested that the Board adopt a rule that an oath appears on the
agenda with specific language that would be consistently used for swearing in witnesses
or applicants.
Chairman Suozzi asked for staff to submit to the Board recommended language that
could be used for the oath.
Vice Chairman Adler suggested that there should be rules governing questions of staff
verse questions of the applicant. He said that the Board should receive additional
education as to the kinds of questions asked of staff verses those questions asked of the
applicant. He said that he would offer this as an item on the agenda when the rules are
actually formalized.
Member Swan asked Vice Chairman Adler if there were any specific recommendations
for rules or a format that could used.
Vice Chairman Adler replied, "yes."He explained that he did have a specific suggestion,
but was more interested in placing this item on the agenda so that when the Board gets to
the point of adopting or considering rules and procedures, this could be one of them.
Mr. Dudley stated that he had concern with the way that the information was being
produced. He emphasized that he perceived the Board as an informal courtroom setting.
He explained that it was the burden of proof applicant to convince the Board. He feels
that the way the procedures are currently set-up, Dee Widero, Senior Zoning Inspector, is
carrying the applicant burden and/or providing the background information. He
explained that the applicant should have the first shot at making their case in front of the
Board instead of the Town.
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Bryant Nodine, Planning and Zoning Administrator recommended not necessarily
modifying the application,but recommend that the applicant presents provide the bulk of
the information regarding the case. He said that the applicant's presentation should
include addressing a variance that consists of more than(1) issue. He explained that it
could not be considered if it has not been included in the notice. Therefore, the title at the
beginning of the staff report should indicate specifically what items are being requested
terms of the variance.
Mr. Dudley agreed with Member Lewis as felt that the application should be in an
amended format. He explained that if a request for variance was amended, and as long as
it was properly noticed that this would work when producing pleadings in his legal
opinion. He said that if it doesn't create any additional problems there would be more
symmetry to the system.
Mr. Nodine clarified that the Board would like the application to reflect the fact that the
applicant would need to submit something in writing to indicate that they were requesting
a variance for more than (1)particular issue.
Member Lewis replied, "that is correct."
Chairman Suozzi concurred that if the application was not completely revised that there
should be an addendum attached reflecting that there was another issue in the application
that needed to be addressed.
Mr. Nodine explained that staff should identify each individual variance and make sure
that the Board is aware of all the issues that were relative to the case. He said that the
applicant should address all of the issues pertaining to the case. He explained that he
would need to consult with the Town Attorney to make sure staff was taking the right
approach.
Vice Chairman Adler suggested that the Board obtain an understanding of what the
agenda would allow in regards to peripheral discussion. He explained that this would
allow the Board to develop a reasonable set of parameters. He said that the "site tours"
should also be discussed. He suggested that staff should organize a"site tour"with the
members of the Board to view the site.
Chairman Suozzi agreed with Vice Chairman Adler regarding the "site tours". He stated
that this issue was actually addressed in the BOA handbook. He said that the manual also
states that if a staff member was not available, the Board member could visit the site on
his or her own.
Member Lewis stated that as far as procedures were concerned, if the applicant was
willing to make modifications or accept suggestions and changes, the Board could
approve the variance based upon those suggestions. She felt that if the Board could give
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the applicant some direction, that it was the Board's responsibility to do so. Chairman
Suozzi agreed.
Member Done arrived at 3:05 p.m.
Member Swan stated that in his opinion each individual that serves on the Board is
unique. Therefore, he or she may need to ask particular questions in an attempt to obtain
the information relevant to make an adequate evaluation. He added that there was a
learning curve; new member has to learn the appropriate questions to ask to generate
appropriate action. He felt that the members should have free reign.
Chairman Suozzi opened the discussion concerning the "Selection of Members and
Board Composition." He referenced to page 11 and 12 in the Board of Adjustment
Handbook Section 5, Board of Adjustment Basic "Desirable Attributes of Board
Members which lists the following qualifications:
• An interest in zoning and planning and a willingness to learn about them.
• Time enough to learn about the business of the board and to prepare for meetings and
hearings.
• An open, impartial, and orderly mind.
• Honesty and fairness.
• The ability to envision and consider the long-term effects of a decision and to put
them ahead of any short-term changes.
• The ability to put the public good above the welfare of individual applicants when
making your decisions.
• The ability to be articulate at public meetings and hearings.
• A commitment to enforce the zoning laws as they are, and not let your disagreement
with parts of them sway your decisions.
• A commitment to work for the improvement of the zoning ordinance.
Member Swan stated that the decision was the responsibility of the Council and that it
should remain that way. However, if the Board wanted to draft some reasonable
qualifications for members that could be used as a guideline for Council, that would be an
option.
Vice Chairman Adler stated that the Board members could individually, or as a group
offers some suggestions regarding the qualification to the Government Review Task
Force(GRTF). He added that he was already developing a draft for the GRTF and
encouraged the other Board members to do the same.
Mr. Dudley explained that there is difficulty with signing a letter of recommendation as a
group because of the Open Meetings Law.
Chairman Suozzi suggested that each board member create their own personal list of
ideas and submit them at the next meeting. He explained that these items would be
reviewed and submitted as a group effort to the Town Council.
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Mr. Dudley stated the he was concerned about whether the Board had the ability to take
formal action on item such as this. He explained that if the Board member signs off on
the document, it represents taking formal action. He said if it's not"agendized" for
formal action that the Board could not vote on it. Therefore,by submitting a letter with
everyone's signature, it would be effectively the same as a vote.
Vice Chairman Adler suggested the a member could written the task force as a citizen,
instead of as a member of the BOA, relating in the letter how they felt regarding the
selection and qualifications of a new member.
Member Lewis felt that it was inappropriate for Board members to develop a guideline of
what new members should look like because it should be a diverse group of people. She
said that this procedure should be the responsibility of the Town Council and Staff.
Mr. Feinberg a member of the Government Review Task Force (GRTF) stated the GRTF
has received a couple letters from the BOA. He informed the Board that before the
GRTF sent any recommendations to Council all of the board would be given an outline of
the report. He suggested at that time that the Boards could submit their suggestions.
Chairman Suozzi agreed.
Member Swan asked Mr. Feinberg if there was a set timetable in which the report would
be available.
Mr. Feinberg replied maybe in a month or two.
Mr. Dudley suggested that the staff could provide the BOA with the minutes from the
GRTF on a regular basis for review.
Mr. Nodine suggested asking members of the GRTF to attend the BOA Study Session,
present what they are considering and ask questions, giving the Board an opportunity to
respond.
Member Swan extended an open invitation to Mr. Feinberg and Mr. Dvorak for the
GRTF members to attend the BOA meetings.
3. CLARIFY "CONFLICT OF INTEREST" ISSUES AND CIRCUMSTANCES
Chairman Suozzi stated that this was another item that is addressed in Section 5 of the
BOA handbook.
Mr. Dudley stated that if a member had a perceived economic benefit or detriment as a
result of granting a variance, then he or she should excuse themselves. He said that since
this item had been discussed at the previous study session,he had no additional
information to provide.
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Member Done felt that a conflict of interest did not necessarily have to involve money.
She said that to maintain the credibility of the BOA, the members must never allow
themselves to get personally involved.
Mr. Dudley explained that by law a"conflict of interest"only pertains to having a
financial interest. He explained that if it is a friend there is no conflict,but if it is a
relative it would be considered a "conflict of interest". He suggested that Board members
use the words "I have a conflict of interest" very carefully. They should onlybe applied
to a legal conflict,which would be an economic interest. If a project was in the same
neighborhood or next door to the member, he suggested that the member say"as a matter
of conscience I feel that I should refuse myself." He informed the Board that there is a
form available in the Clerk's Office that would need to be signed if there was a conflict
of interest.
4. SUGGESTIONS ON HOW TO BE FAIR, OBJECTIVE,IMPARTIAL AND AN
ACTIVE MEMBER
No comments were made on this item.
5. RELATIONSHIP OF THIS BOARD WITH OTHER BOARDS (P&Z,DRB,
ETC., ESPECIALLY WHEN RELATED ITEMS ARE INVOLVED
Member Swan stated that in his opinion the BOA was a Board of last resorts. He said if
there were any other issues concerning the case, it should be done prior to coming before
the Board of Adjustment (BOA).
Mr. Nodine explained that there were rules and procedures that should be followed by the
applicant. He explained that it was appropriate for the applicant to come before the BOA
first and then the applicant could take those conditions before another board for
consideration. He stated that the key to the matter is to be very clear in the motion the
intentions of the Board.
Vice Chairman Adler asked that if a motion was made and the member wanted to change
the motion, could the Board restate the motion?
Mr. Dudley stated that there was case law that provided for reconsideration. He added
that the motion to reconsider should be made at or before the next meeting.
Member Lewis suggested creating a notice to send the applicant once the reconsideration
had been file.
Mr. Dudley replied "Bryant and I will look into that."
Vice Chairman Adler felt that it was very important the build a relationship with other
Boards and Committees.
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Member Lewis asked when a case is moved to the next level if the BOA minutes were
automatically included.
Mr. Nodine stated that the motion has been included in the past,but felt that it would be a
good idea to include the minutes in the future. He said that staff could use excerpt for
those issues of concern, and distribute them to the committees and boards.
Vice Chairman Adler had concern with the BOA and the Town Council. He felt that the
BOA was being pre-empted and explained that to be consistent, to a project meet or
doesn't meet acceptable code it should come before the BOA and not the Town Council.
He expressed the Board needs more work.
Mr. Nodine stated that flexibility is set up so that all cases don't necessarily have to come
before the Board of Adjustment (BOA). He explained that in general if a person is
asking for relief from the code for a specific reason, then the applicant might take his
case before the BOA. However, for cases such as grading exceptions or golf course
overlay district there are provisions in the code that say the Council has the authority to
grant waivers. He said that he had not seen an issue where Council had taken action to
grant exceptions or variance to the code.
Mr. Dudley explained that if there is a variance request it absolutely has to come before
the BOA. He explained that the Town Council does not have the authority to grant a
variance according to the code. He said the Town Council only has the authority in
limited circumstances, and it would not truly be a variance. In addition, the zoning
administrator interpretation must come before the BOA. In conclusion,he stated that if
the Town Council choose, they could be the Board of Adjustment (BOA).
Vice Chairman Adler asked that if there were not any staff members available for
resource purposes, could the Board continue the item.
Mr. Dudley explained that it would be appropriate to continue the item if this Board did
not feel they had the proper information and appropriate staffing to make a decision.
Mr. Nodine stated that the Board members could contact staff ahead of time for
information to get a better understanding of the case.
6. CLARIFY HOW RECOMMENDATION(S), DECISION(S), CONDITION(S)
ARE COMMUNICATED WITH OTHER BOARDS, STAFF,TOWN COUNCIL
Chairman Suozzi stated that both Items 5 & 6 were covered in the previous discussion
and he moved forward to Item 7.
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7. OTHER QUESTIONS,CONCERNS, ETC.
Chairman Suozzi opened the discussion regarding the time of the meeting. He stated that
personally he approved of having the meeting at 3:00 p.m., but he was interested in
having better attendance from the citizens of the Town.
Member Lewis suggested meeting after 5:00 p.m.
Member Done felt that there was not a lot of input coming in from the citizens at large.
Kathryn Cuvelier, Town Clerk, stated that the citizens could submit a letter that to be
included with the applicant's application, and it would then be on file regarding the case.
Vice Chairman Adler had concerns with the issue regarding notification. He said that the
300 feet radius did not include many people. He expressed that giving people an
opportunity to participate is very important.
Chairman Suozzi suggested creating a more personal letter that would encourage the
citizens to attend the meeting. He asked if the radius could be changed to 600 feet or
1000 feet.
Mr. Nodine explained that the code states that the citizens within the 30-0 foot radius had
to be notified, but it doesn't say if a greater radius could be used.
Member Swan asked if the code could be changed.
Mr. Nodine replied, "yes, absolutely."
Vice Chairman Adler asked for an estimated cost to the Town to have staff on hand with
overtime if the Board were to have a 6:00 p.m. meting.
Mr. Nodine stated that an average cost with benefits would be around $25.00 per hour per
staff person. He informed the Board that staff was taking the work plan to the Planning
and Zoning Commission on the 6th of February, and he would make a note that the BOA
has requested that the"Notification Code"be reconsidered.
Ms. Cuvelier explained the since this was not an item listed on the agenda, the BOA
could bring this item forward at the next meeting and vote in order to give staff direction.
Vice Chairman Adler asked if staff would consider having a 6:00 p.m. meeting on an
experimental basis.
Vice Chairman Adler stated that Planning and Zoning typically has a pre-application
conference with the applicant. He asked if there was any advantage to this based upon
certain contentious issues.
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Mr. Nodine expressed that this should be a question directed to the Town Attorney, who
was unavailable at this time. He explained that because the Board was a quasi-judicial
body he had concerns. He explained the Board should obtain as much information as
possible and suggested the following:
• Take the site tour
• Getting questions to staff before the meeting
• The applicant could be alerted in regarding a questions that may need to be addressed
at the hearing.
• The Board could choose to call a continuance if they did not feel there was enough
information to make an adequate decision.
Chairman Suozzi suggested that the Board members bring their BOA handbooks to the
next meeting. He opened discussion for suggestions regarding a new date and time for the
next Study Session meeting.
Vice Chairman Adler suggested having the next meeting on the 27th of February
immediately following the regularly scheduled meeting. The Board and Staff members
agreed.
ADJOURNMENT
Chairman Suozzi adjourned the meeting at 5:00 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
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in.a Hersha, Secretary II