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ORO VALLEY HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION
REGULAR SESSION
September 8, 2008
ORO VALLEY COUNCIL CHAMBERS
11000 N. LA CANADA DRIVE
I. Call to Order: at or after 5:00 p.m.
II. Roll Call.
PRESENT: Chair Bob Baughman
Vice Chair Dan Zwiener
Commissioner Pat Spoerl
Commissioner Patrick Foley
Commissioner Valerie Pullara
Commissioner Lois Nagy
Also present:
Salette Latas, Council Member
Bill Adler, Planning & Zoning Commissioner
Scott Nelson, Special Projects Coordinator
Diane Chapman, Senior Office Specialist
III. Call to the Audience. Opened and closed with no speakers.
IV. Approval of August 11, 2008, minutes.
Chair Baughman stated that in reviewing the minutes, the description of Mr. Garrison's
presentation needed some clarification. He would like to defer approval of the minutes
to the next meeting. Commissioner Spoerl will work with Ms. Chapman on wording.
MOTION: Vice Chair Zwiener MOVED to delay approval of the August 11, 2008,
minutes to the next meeting. Commissioner Pullara seconded the motion.
Motion carried, 6:0.
V. Discussion and possible action regarding the Oro Valley Historical Society
presentation for a historical garden at Steam Pump Ranch.
Commissioner Spoerl said the Steam Pump Master Plan outlined a pre-opening phase
to last from 2009 to 2012, which includes limited public access to the site for guided
tours and other specific activities. One activity is a historic garden project proposed by
the Oro Valley Historical Society (OVHS). Commissioner Spoerl introduced Joyce
Rychener, who developed the idea and who is a member of the OVHS on the Education
Committee. The board has approved the proposal that Ms. Rychener developed and it
has been reviewed on the grounds several times with Scott Nelson. We are in the
process of attempting to secure funding for materials and soil preparation for the historic
gardens. They have met with Karn Boyce with the Water Utility Department about grant
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possibilities for water conservation and harvesting. The Town and the Commission
have not yet developed specific review and approval procedures related to Steam Pump
Ranch. The purpose of this evening's presentation is for information and to receive
comments.
Ms. Rychener said in order to get public interest in this project, suggested the idea of
starting historic gardens. They are proposing to create gardens from the Arizona
territorial period, 1834-1912, using researched plot plans and heirloom seeds typical of
that period, and also to recreate demonstration gardens similar to those of Native
American tribes of the Steam Pump Ranch vicinity.
Ms. Rychener showed slides of proposed garden locations. The gardens would provide
a place for students to come and learn about planting heirloom seeds, transplanting,
water harvesting and other related items. The garden would have a 30 x 60 foot chain
link and steel post fence possibly with mesquite branches woven in the chain link. Gates
would be willow arch gates. The garden would be seasonal.
Steps to begin: conduct soil analysis and correct any deficiencies, turn soil, add
compost, mark out plots, install drip or other irrigation, construct rainwater harvesting
system, and plant appropriate researched heirloom seeds. That would be followed
by maintaining the garden, educating the community, distributing the harvest, and
repeating the process in spring, summer and fall. A core of volunteers will help maintain
the gardens.
Estimated cost: $3,000 for each garden.
List of possible resources: Native Seed Search, AZ Sonoran Desert Museum, Arbico
Organics, Tohono Chul Park, AZ Historical Society, AZ State Museum, San Xavier
Cooperative Farms, Father Kino Tree Project, AAA Landscaping, Tucson Audubon
Society, and Seed Savers Exchange
Questions and comments:
- What about signage?
Response: It will be well signed and educational.
- Drip irrigation seems inappropriate for the time frame.
Response: Drip from harvested water may be the only practical way to water.
- Could fencing be more appropriate for the time period?
Response: May weave mesquite or willow branches in to make it look more authentic.
They will need something to keep the animals out. They are still researching fences.
- If too many modern things are used, you are only growing heirloom produce; it is not
really historical.
- One of the challenges planning this is historically there is very little information.
- Steam pump may have been used to help with irrigation.
- Find out when cellar was built. It may have been used to store seeds.
- Do a program for saving heirloom seeds and keeping them pure.
Signage should be self-educating.
- Consider temporary fences that can go up at night and down during the day.
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Mr. Nelson said there are still safety issues at the ranch. A temporary way of protecting
the gardens needs to be considered if this starts soon.
Vice Chair Zwiener voiced that he would like to continue working with Ms. Rychener on
this project.
Mr. Nelson asked if the Commission was endorsing the gardens.
Chair Baughman said the purpose of this is for information. There is a lot of research
and decisions that need to be made before this begins.
Commissioner Spoerl said the intent in developing this was to have a means for people
to see Steam Pump Ranch in the next year or two before the official opening, once the
Town considers it safe. The Master Plan does reference a garden and includes a large
area for crops. Purpose now is to get started so small groups of children can come out.
They would like to start with a spring garden, so the work would have to start in the next
couple of months. This should not have an impact on our nomination to the National
Registrar.
Commissioner Latas said she would have to defer to the legal council, but did not
perceive any objections to this. This has always been an anticipated use to the
property. HPC has no authority now, but endorsement may be okay.
Mr. Nelson agreed there was little or no harm in endorsing. Before the next meeting we
can research and see if it needs to go to Council.
Break from 5:55 to 6:05 p.m.
VI. Discussion and possible action regarding Steam Pump Ranch.
HPC decided at the last meeting to consider Steam Pump Ranch for the Centennial
project.
Commissioner Nagy volunteered to give a presentation of whether SPR would fit in the
criteria for the Centennial project.
Mr. Nelson reported that the fireplace and chimney on the second floor collapsed in the
last storm. Emergency stabilization has been completed and the walls protected.
Rainwater has been channeled away from that wall. This will qualify for emergency
stabilization funds from the 2004 bonds. The structural engineer and consultant have
been out to the Ranch. Next week will work to put together the construction docs which
SHPO will need to review prior to repairing the wall. There is around $90,000 bond
funding left.
VII. Discussion and possible action regarding HPC Work Plan.
a. CLG Application
Mr. Nelson reported there has not been any correspondence from Mr. Garrison
regarding the CLG application since he was at the last HPC meeting.
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Vice Chair Zwiener recommended staff contact Mr. Garrison on this item.
Commissioner Spoerl suggested not making contact yet as it has not been 30
days.
b. Cultural Resource Inventory Plan - Commissioners Spoerl and Nagy
Mr. Nelson said we are at the point of putting together an RFP to see what firm might be
able to conduct a survey for the Town. He will check with SHPO to see if they already
have a form to use and will keep Commissioners Spoerl and Nagy information of his
progress.
c. Budget - Chair Baughman and Vice Chair Zwiener
d. Community Outreach - Commissioner Pullara
Commissioner Pullara will look at how to develop ways the Commission can become
better known to the community.
e. Process Plan for Historic Designation - Chair Baughman
f. Role of the HPC
Salette Latas, Council Member, worked on this when she was on the HPC. There is a
section in the ordinance regarding this and it is evolving all the time.
MOTION: Commissioner Nagy MOVED to remove the role of the Historic
Preservation Commission from the work plan. Commissioner Spoerl seconded
the motion. Motion carried, 6:0.
g. Training
Commissioner Foley volunteered to work with Mr. Nelson to identify training
opportunities and scheduling.
h. Santa Cruz Heritage Alliance
Commissioner Latas has indicated a willingness to continue as a liaison, and a member
of the Commission should also be in that capacity. Commissioner Pullara volunteered to
work with the Santa Cruz Heritage Alliance.
MOTION: Commissioner Foley MOVED to approve Commissioner Pullara as the
government liaison to the Santa Cruz Heritage Alliance. Commissioner Nagy
seconded the motion. Motion carried, 6:0.
VIII. Discussion and possible action regarding National Alliance of Historic
Commissions.
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Scott Nelson will see about getting a contact person changed from Pamela Pelletier to a
Commissioner.
Commissioner Spoerl suggested membership needs a password to be able to access
the online data base. Mr. Nelson would be the logical contact person.
IX. Announcements.
There were no announcements.
X. Items for future agendas.
- Implementation of Honey Bee Village Preserve Concept Plan.
XI. Adjourn.
MOTION: Vice Chair Zwiener MOVED to adjourn the HPC meeting. Commissioner
Spoerl seconded the motion. Motion carried, 6:0. Meeting adjourned at 6:25 p.m.
Prepared by:
Diane Chapman
Senior Office Specialist
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