HomeMy WebLinkAboutMinutes - Historic Preservation Commission - 1/14/2008 MINUTES
ORO VALLEY HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION
REGULAR MEETING
January 14, 2008
ORO VALLEY COUNCIL CHAMBERS
11000 N. LA CANADA DRIVE
I. Call to Order: at of after 5:00 p.m.
II. Roll Call.
PRESENT: Chair Bob Baughman
Vice Chair Salette Latas
Commissioner Daniel Zwiener
Commissioner Pat Spoerl
Commissoner Marilyn Cook
Commissioner Lois Nagy
Others present:
Sarah More, Planning and Zoning Director
Al Kunisch, Council Member
Pamela Pelletier, Planner
Scott Nelson, Special Projects Coordinator
Diane Chapman, Senior Office Specialist
III. Call to the Audience, opened and closed at 5:06 p.m. with no speakers.
IV. Approval of December 10, 2007 minutes.
MOTION: Commissioner Cook MOVED to approve the December 10, 2007,
Historic Preservation Commission minutes. Commissioner Zwiener
seconded the motion. Motion carried 6:0.
V. Discussion and possible action regarding Steam Pump Ranch: the Master
Planning process and the future of the property.
The information packet the Commissioners received in the mail gave a
background for the Steam Pump Ranch (SPR) Master Planning (MP) process.
HPC would be the lead commission overseeing the MP process and after
studying would make a recommendation to Town Council for final acceptance.
Criteria for making a recommendation should be set in advance of reviewing
the MP. It will be a recommendation only. HPC will not change the MP.
After discussion it was decided that there are enough criteria already established
in the Historic Preservation Code and elsewhere that the Commission can use as
guidelines: the Secretary of Interior's Standards and Guidelines, the National
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Register eligibility criteria, the Intergovernmental Agreement, statements in the
General Plan, the Historic Preservation Ordinance and the guiding principles of
the Task Force.
Chair Baughman said that the Mayor also gave HPC some guidance. The
Commission needs to bear in mind that some of the criteria in the items identified
do not necessarily apply. The objective in judging the MP should focus from a
narrow view of historic preservation. He wants to avoid this Commission making
recommendations for appropriate uses.
Staff will put together a packet including the information sources listed above and
distribute to the HPC members, who in turn will extract criteria from each
document and come up with a checklist to be presented at the next meeting.
The criteria for National Registry listing is what HPC should be looking at
because the Task Force has not come up with the degree to which they are
doing restoration and rehabilitation, etc. HPC would not be looking at the sub-
checklists but the overarching checklist which is the criteria for listing.
The Secretary of Interior standards, the National Register eligibility criteria and
the IGA are the main things that must be looked at.
Nothing has been finalized for after the MP process is finished; however, the
Parks and Rec Department will likely be the driving entity managing/overseeing
SPR with Public Works maintaining the buildings.
MOTION: Commissioner Spoerl MOVED that the Historic Preservation
Commission, in combination with staff, and other appropriate
people, since the Town owns the property, prepare an application for
historic district designation for Steam Pump Ranch. Motion was seconded
by Commissioner Nagy.
Ms. More stated that the Town doesn't have an historic district zone on the books
yet. The zone or district could be created concurrently with processing the first
application on the map.
Mrs. Pelletier, Planner, stated that the SPR 15.52 acre site would all be going for
nomination for designation. Permission would have to be granted from the
County for the County land if it were to be included for designation.
Motion carried 6:0.
VI. Discussion and possible action regarding HPC Work Plan.
Chair Baughman suggested that item #7 be added to the HPC Workplan.
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MOTION: Vice Chair Laths MOVED that the AZ Centennial 2012 Legacy
Project Designation be added to the workplan. The motion was seconded
by Commissioner Cook. Motion carried 6:0.
Council Member Kunisch reported that he met with the Mayor regarding HPC's
role, and the Mayor was very specific that there is not enough staff to have
committee meetings. The Mayor suggested HPC have regular meetings which
include the business portion and a study session if necessary, so everyone was
involved. The Ordinance is specific to HPC's role. The Mayor thought HPC
should look at a 5 year plan. HPC will have to do an inventory of potential
properties for historic designation, which will take a long time.
Commission Spoerl is the representative from HPC for the Steam Pump Ranch
Task Force and Chair Baughman is the citizen at large. Information for the Task
Force should go to Commissioner Spoerl.
Ms. More pointed out that there was $5 million designated through Pima County
bond money for restoration and $2 million to establish a museum. The museum
was eliminated and the $5 million dropped to $2 million. Now we can justify the
real numbers coming out of the study by the consultant.
The work plan will be on every agenda. Chair Baughman would like to end up
with a list of items on the work plan and how to deal with them. The Mayor had
pointed out that HPC was doing staff work, and that there is not enough staff
time. We could take a load off staff or assist them in doing their work.
Commissioners have different views as private citizens.
The role of HPC is delineated in the ordinance. Volunteers listed below will
research the item and bring information back to HPC.
- Role of HPC: Vice Chair Latas.
- Process Plan: Chair Baughman - He will take the outline already done and look
for similar forms.
- Cultural Resource : Commissioners Nagy and Spoerl, will review what is
required for Cultural Resource, with each individual working on a separate
aspect.
- Budget: Chair Baughman
- Proposed Activites for Community Outreach: Commissioner Cook
- Training Programs: Commissioner Zwiener
- Public outreach: Staff representative, Scott Nelson
- Training: Ms. More and Mrs. Mack will be staff representatives.
Ms. More stated that the Town is in preparation stages for next fiscal year's
budget. There is nothing in budget now, so this needs to be addressed soon.
Mrs. Pelletier said the consultant for Steam Pump Ranch stated that the survey
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would be costly. HPC might want to send out formal requests to consultants to
get an idea of what costs might be for doing the survey for potential historic
designation sites. Steam Pump and the survey needs to be kept separate.
Commissioner Spoerl said that the level of survey to start needs to be
determined first, whether it is for original neighborhoods, public buildings, doing a
windshield survey, or checking Pima County records.
All drafts should go back to Mrs. Pelletier to be administered. Copy her on all
correspondence.
Chair Baughman said this will still be in the discussion phase at the next
meeting. Report on what the process will be at the next meeting.
Mrs. Pelletier gave the Certification of Local Government (CLG) report,
and discussed the contents for the request: The SHPO request for certification,
draft letter from the Mayor, the Ordinance, the Town Code, the map in
conjunction with the sites identified at earlier committee meetings and resumes.
Discussion followed regarding input for the map: investigate applying to
AZSITE, should petroglyph locations be publicized, petroglyph protection,
education of public, more petroglyphs discovered as property is developed.
MOTION: Commissioner Spoerl MOVED that the Town of Oro Valley apply for
access to AZSITE data base. Commissioner Zwiener seconded the motion.
Motion carried 6:0.
Once the map is revised, all resumes are received via email, and suggestions
emailed to Mrs. Pelletier within 2 weeks, a formal application can be brought
back for Council. Staff will deliver the draft before the next meeting.
The issue of the vacancy will be reviewed when SHPO reviews application for
CLG.
Chair Baughman thought it would be beneficial to explain that the death of the
Town Historian has left a vacancy which is out of the Commission's hands to fill,
and that the Council has not filled it.
VII. Discussion and possible action regarding Arizona Centennial 2012 Legacy
Project Designation. This item was included in the work plan discussion.
VIII. Announcements.
- Invitations from the Tucson Historic Preservation Foundation were distributed to
the HPC members.
- There is a study session with Town Council on February 27, 2008, and the HPC
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Rules and Procedures is on the agenda. The SPR consultant will also be on the
agenda that night.
- Vice Chair Latas attended a Santa Cruz Heritage Alliance meeting earlier this
month. A local foods festival is planned for later this year. SPR fits into this kind
of tourism promotion. -Wednesday, January 16, 2008, is the next Task Force
meeting for SPR MP in the Kachina Room at 3:00 p.m.
- In late February there will be additional Boards and Commissions training put
on by the AZ Department of Commerce. The time, date and content will be email
to members.
- January 28, 2008, will be a site tour to Agua Caliente Park. They will meet with
the Pima County Parks staff to discuss operation and maintenance cost. This
may give us ideas of what could be done at SPR. Meet at 2:00 p.m. and travel
by van.
IX. Items for future agendas.
- Plan a site tour of Honey Bee Village before snake season. Scott Nelson
said he would like to meet with Communications Director Mary Davis and Tohona
O'odham Nation to follow their directions.
X. Adjourn.
MOTION: Vice Chair Latas MOVED to adjourn the HPC meeting. Commissioner
Cook seconded the motion. Motion carried 6:0. Meeting adjourned at 6:50 p.m.
Prepared by:
Diane Chapman
Senior Office Specialist
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