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HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION
DECEMBER 12, 2005
ORO VALLEY COUNCIL CHAMBERS
11000 NORTH LA CANADA DRIVE
CALL TO ORDER: 6:03 PM
PRESENT: CHAIR PAMELA SARPALIUS
VICE CHAIR ROBERT BAUGHMAN
COMMISSIONER NANCY MAGER
COMMISSIONER JIM KRIEGH
COMMISSIONER AL KUNISCH
COMMISSIONER SYBIL NEEDHAM
ALSO PRESENT:
CONNY CULVER, TOWN COUNCIL LIAISON
BRENT SINCLAIR, AICP, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR
MARGOT HURST, PARKS AND RECREATION ADVISORY BOARD LIAISON
JENNIFER JONES, RECORDING SECRETARY
ABSENT: COMMISSIONER PAIGE CHRISTIANSEN
STUDENT LIAISON, EMILY GRAVES
CALL TO AUDIENCE
Opened and closed with no comment.
I. APPROVAL OF MINUTES OF NOVEMBER 14, 2005 MEETING
MOTION: Commissioner Kunisch MOVED to approve the minutes as submitted.
Commissioner Needham SECONDED the motion. Motion carried (6-0).
II. HISTORY READING BY JIM KRIEGH
Commissioner Kreigh passed around a photo he took on Christmas Day 1987 from his home. Mr.
Kriegh stated that it is proof that it can snow here on Christmas.
Commissioner Kriegh read an article from the Arizona Territorial on November 20, 1975,titled
"Explosion $60,000 damage done to area homes leaving three dead", Mr. Kriegh gave a little
background on this article, he stated that he happened to be downtown for a meeting and received a
message from his wife stating that a plane has crashed into their house. Mr. Kriegh stated that he
took off for his house and when he got up to Casas Adobes the air was so black that he could not see
to drive. Mr. Kriegh stated that when he got home, all but two of his windows were blown out and
even the nails in the wall board were pulled out a little bit from the vibration. Mr. Kriegh explained that
the National Forest Service hired a company to build a bunker off of Linda Vista (east on Linda Vista
where there is parking area for hikers), and this bunker stored explosives. Mr. Kriegh stated that
some kids got hold of some armor piercing bullets and shot through the bunker and blew it up, and
killed the boys.
Commissioner Kriegh read from another article from the Tucson Daily Citizen, dated October 7, 1974
titled, "Oro Council Moves into Bedroom". "The Oro Valley Town Hall will be moved out of the
borrowed high school classroom into a bedroom." Mr. Kriegh stated that the Council first met in a
borrowed classroom at Canyon Del Oro. Mr. Kriegh stated that Town Hall moved to 9040 North
Oracle Road, before it moving to the offices on Calle Concordia, where Parks and Recreation is
located.
III. REPORT FROM THE ORO VALLEY HISTORICAL SOCIETY
Commissioner Kriegh informed the Commission that starting in March 2006 the Oro Valley Historical
Society will be having their meetings on the third Thursday of the each month at the Oro Valley Public
Library. Mr. Kriegh stated that the January and February meetings will be held at their current
location. Mr. Kreigh stated that a group from the Oro Valley Historical Society was going to get
together to decide precisely what their goals, outlines are and which committees they want to form.
Mr. Kriegh stated that they are excited to get some things done and achieved by virtue of the
committees.
IV. REPORT FROM THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION ORDINANCE TASK FORCE; TO
ACCEPT THE DRAFT ORDINANCE
Vice Chair Baughman pointed out to the Commission that they have a copy of the draft ordinance that
just came in from the Town Attorney's Office.Vice Chair Baughman stated that he delivered the
ordinance to the Town Attorney on Friday, December 9, 2005. Mr. Baughman stated that he briefly
reviewed the proposed changes and they are somewhat different from the things that were discussed.
Mr. Baughman suggested postponing this agenda item until the January meeting, so that the Task
Force could meet again and go over the proposed changes from the Town Attorney.
Chair Sarpalius asked that this item be put on the January 9, 2006 meeting agenda.
V. REPORT FROM STUDENT LIAISON
No report for this meeting.
VI. REPORT FROM THE PARKS AND RECREATION ADVISORY BOARD
Margot Hurst, Parks and Recreation Advisory Board Liaison, stated PRAB is really sharing the
Commissions joy and excitement with what they saw at the Honey Bee Village tour. Ms. Hurst stated
that after the tour Mr. Solomon had some concerns about the trail matching on the south side where it
comes to the housing development and stated that Mr. Solomon met this week with the Parks and
Recreation department. Ms. Hurst stated that she feels it is a pretty straight forward issue and may
involve moving signage on the trail.
Commissioner Kunisch asked if the Town is going to put up any temporary fencing up along the
southside.
Mr. Sinclair replied that the Town will not be putting up any temporary fencing.
Vice Chair Baughman pointed out that Ms. Hurst had submitted a couple of suggestions to the Task
Force for the ordinance, which they adopted and are included in the draft ordinance.
VII. REPORT FROM THE SANTA CRUZ NATIONAL HERITAGE AREA ALLIANCE LIAISON
Commissioner Mager stated she will be officially appointed to the Santa Cruz National Heritage Area
Alliance on the evening of December 16, 2005, during the next meeting. Ms. Mager stated that Santa
Cruz Heritage Area Alliance is an interesting broad based group that has applied for non-profit status
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and it is pending. Ms. Mager informed the Commission that they are currently doing some grass roots
fund raising. Ms. Mager stated that they are planning on having more fund raising efforts and she will
keep the commission updated on that.
Ms. Mager stated that they are very well organized and believes that they expect to introduce the
legislation, they have Congressman Kolbe prepared to introduce it to Congress when they adjourn in
January.
Commissioner Needham asked if it includes a certain area of the Santa Cruz.
Commissioner Mager replied that it is the Santa Cruz Valley, from the boarder through Marana to the
Pinal County line. Ms. Mager stated that there is a huge group of Museums, Ranchers, Presidios and
private property owners. Ms. Mager stated that it will be interesting to see if they can get this
designation and what will happen to the area, because ultimately it will become a tourist attraction, as
it is now, but as a region it will have more of a draw and she feels that is ultimately the goal is to bring
some money into that region which will help some of the rural areas that are a little more depressed
and will start to bring some interest into those areas as well.
Commissioner Needham asked if water would be put back into the river.
Commissioner Mager replied that she did not think that was part of the goal of the group, she stated
that it is really about highlighting and celebrating the regions history and culture.
Commissioner Needham expressed that she feels this is a really important project because the whole
area can be united.
Commissioner Mager also stated that this is not only a broad based group, but there is a lot of
governments such as Oro Valley, Sahuarita, Nogales, Marana, Pima County buying into this because
it is only a win situation and it is not a designation that is going to change any sort of land use, so
whether they want to participate or not, it is all voluntary. The idea is that these stake holders are
going to determine what is going to happen here, opposed to the government.
Chair Sarplaius thanked Commissioner Mager for volunteering to be a liaison for the Historic
Preservation Commission and feels that she is going to do a great job.
VIII. FORMULATE WORKING GROUP FOR DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND WALL FOR
HONEY BEE VILLAGE
Mr. Sinclair stated that at the last meeting they talked about what the Commissions role would be for
the development plan for the Honey Bee Village site. Mr. Sinclair stated that it is going to be a step
approach and the first step would be to build a wall. Mr. Sinclair reminded the Commission that the
Town received a grant from the Tohono O'odham Nation to build the wall.
Mr. Sinclair explained that the Commissions first step would be to by motion reignite the old working
group that developed the concept plan for Honey Bee Village and they would then formulate the
design and specifications and report back to the Historic Preservation Commission and then they
would go out to bid and build a wall. Mr. Sinclair stated that it would be the same kind of process as
with the concept plan only a development plan is a little bit more involved and would probably involve
a consultant. Mr. Sinclair refreshed the Commissions memory with the names of the members of
working group, Linda Mayro and Roger Annyon from Pima County, Peter Steer from the Tohono
O'odahm Nation, Steve Solomon, property owner, Arizona State Museum, Town of Oro Valley Staff.
Mr. Sinclair suggested having a representative from the Historic Preservation Commission.
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Chair Sarpalius inquired as to when the working group would meet.
Mr. Sinclair replied that the working group would meet during the day, but in terms of the wall, there
would not be a big commitment as there will probably only be two meetings. Mr. Sinclair stated that
there would be a bigger commitment with the development plan which he anticipates three or four
meetings.
Chair Sarpalius asked for a volunteer.
Vice Chair Baughman stated that he would enjoy doing that.
MOTION: Commissioner Needham MOVED to have Vice Chair Baughman to be
the Historic Preservation Commission representative with the working
group to help design the wall to be going around the Honey Bee Village
site. Commissioner Kunisch SECONDED the motion. Motion carried 6-
0.
MOTION: Vice Chair Baughman MOVED to reactivate the original working group
and report back to the Historic Preservation Commission.
Commissioner Kunisch SECONDED the motion. Motion carried 6-0.
IX. ADJOURN
Chair Sarpalius asked if anyone had anything else to add before adjourning the meeting.
Commissioner Needham informed the Commission that on December 15 at 11:00 a.m. there will
be a ground breaking ceremony for the rebuilding of the Presidio at the corner of Church Avenue
and Washington in Downtown Tucson.
Chair Sarpalius stated that the Town will be ordering shirts for the Commissioners and asked that
the Commissioners see Ms. Jones before leaving, so that they could pick out a shirt.
MOTION: Vice Chair Baughman MOVED to adjourn the Historic Preservation
Commission at 6:25 p.m. Commissioner Needham SECONDED
the motion. Motion carried 6 yes, 0 no.
Respectfully submitted,
Jennifer Jones, Recording Secretary
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