HomeMy WebLinkAboutMinutes - Parks and Recreation Advisory Board - 11/27/2007 MINUTES
ORO VALLEY PARKS & RECREATION ADVISORY BOARD
STUDY SESSION
DEVELOPMENT SERVICES BUILDING
HOPI CONFERENCE ROOM
11,000 N. LA CANADA DRIVE
ORO VALLEY,ARIZONA 85737
TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 27, 2007
STUDY SESSION
CALL TO ORDER: 5:40 p.m.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: Dennis Ottley, Chair
Lyra Done, Vice-Chair
Bob Delaney, Board Member
Robert Evans, Board Member
Margot Hurst, Board Member
Susannah Myerson, Board Member
Greg Roberts, Board Member
STAFF PRESENT: Ainsley Reeder, Parks and Recreation Director
Stacey Lemos, Finance Director
Art Cuaron, Financial Analyst
1. PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT USER FEES—DISCUSSION
Ms. Reeder introduced Stacey Lemos, Town Finance Director and Art Cuaron, Financial
Analyst. Mr. Cuaron has been working with Parks and Recreation on a current policy for user
fee structure. He has reviewed the existing ordinance which outlines how fees are to be set. He
has also researched how other jurisdictions structure their fees. Ms. Reeder thanked Ms. Lemos
and Mr. Cuaron for their time and effort in this endeavor.
Ms. Reeder explained that the goal of this meeting is for the Board to give thoughtful
consideration to the drafted policy. The goal is not to change the existing ordinance which
outlines how fees are set. The ordinance explains that facility usage fees and rental fees are
approved by Town Council and programmatic fees that are variable based on cost are set by the
Parks and Recreation Department. Ms. Reeder stated that at a later date staff will return to the
Board with more information about the fee details.
Ms. Lemos explained that staff is looking at this issue because it is one of the Town Manager's
goals for this fiscal year and it is a recommended practice by the Government Finance Officers
Association(GFOA). The GFOA is an association which guides government accounting and
budgeting and one of their goals is to have governments review their user fees for cost recovery
rates and program costs on a bi-annual basis.
Mr. Cuaron's research included policies nationwide, statewide and for local jurisdictions. The
structure of the cost recovery pyramid illustrates a bottom layer with programs which should be
11/27/07 Minutes, Parks&Recreation Advisory Board
fully subsidized and are a benefit to the community. The top layer of the pyramid includes more
specialized programs which provide an individual benefit.
Mr. Cuaron stated that the purpose is not to change the original ordinance but to adopt a
methodology for the Parks and Recreation programs. The current ordinance outlines authority
for changing fees but does not outline a philosophy. The ordinance also does not include how
often fees should be reviewed. The GFOA recommends review on a bi-annual basis.
Ms. Reeder explained the process of this project. Parks and Recreation will work with Finance
and assess the Town's cost recovery compared to other jurisdictions. An analysis of the findings
will then be presented to Town Council for recommendation.
Mr. Cuaron discussed the comparison to other jurisdictions. He stated that the Town is
competitive with our park facility prices compared to Tucson, Marana, and Pima County.
Member Hurst described proposed verbiage revisions in the "Definition's and Program
Categories" section.
The Board agreed that it is a good tier structure. Member Hurst pointed out that the pyramid
does not illustrate a category range from 75%— 100%.
Ms. Reeder explained that historically the Town Council has supported services for certain
events due to the community and economic benefits associated with hosting the events in the
Town. In some cases, promoters will pay for in-kind services and sometimes the Town Council
will budget for those events.
The Board discussed the philosophy of the policy. Ms. Reeder stated that staff already has some
cost recovery goals because it is the industry standard.
The Board discussed the budget process. Ms. Reeder explained that the amount available to
spend is the same regardless of how much revenue is collected. Ms. Lemos stated that fees
collected go into the General Fund.
Mr. Cuaron indicated that he found jurisdictions that offered discounted rates for residents.
Member Hurst asked about including different pricing for children and adults in the policy. Mr.
Cuaron stated that the levels of the pyramid would allow initiation of different fees. The Board
discussed a discount for children, seniors, and low income families. Ms. Reeder stated that
arrangements have been made in the past for low income families attending the summer camp
program.
Ms. Reeder explained that staff would like to move forward with this policy in the spring and
have a consensus from PRAB for a recommendation to the Town Council.
This item should be a standing item on the regular meeting agendas.
Vice-Chair Done recommended moving forward on this item so that it can be taken into
consideration during the 08/09 budget preparations. The budget process kicks off in January.
Revenue estimates are finalized at the end of March. Staff is hoping for approval or
recommendation from the Town Council in March or April.
2
11/27/07 Minutes,Parks&Recreation Advisory Board
Member Hurst pointed out that on Pg. 3, the term "the Town" is used and clarification may be
necessary to explain that the Parks and Recreation Director is meant and not the Town Council.
Mr. Cuaron thanked the Board, Ms. Reeder and the Parks and Recreation staff.
Vice-Chair Done introduced Chuck Kill, Vice-Chair of the Finance and Bond Committee.
ADJOURNMENT
Chair Ottley adjourned at meeting at 6:33 p.m. with no objections.
REGULAR SESSION
CALL TO ORDER: 6:40 p.m.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: Lyra Done, Vice-Chair
Bob Delaney, Board Member
Robert Evans, Board Member
Margot Hurst, Board Member
Susannah Myerson, Board Member
Greg Roberts, Board Member
EXCUSED: Dennis Ottley, Chair
STAFF PRESENT: Ainsley Reeder, Parks and Recreation Director
CALL TO AUDIENCE—No speakers.
Vice-Chair Done introduced new member, Greg Roberts and he discussed his background.
Vice-Chair Done introduced Danielle Tanner as the new recording secretary.
3. UPCOMING MEETING ANNOUNCEMENTS
Vice-Chair Done reviewed the upcoming meetings and events as follows:
Giving Tree Lighting Ceremony—Friday,November 30, 2007 at 5:30 p.m.
Holiday Picture—Thursday, December 6, 2007 at 9:00 a.m.
Holiday Parade— Saturday, December 8, 2007 at 10:00 a.m.
Volunteer Appreciation Dinner—Thursday, December 13, 2007, 6:00 p.m. — 8:00 p.m.
Hilton El Conquistador, Presidio Ball Room
• Lyra Done will be a recipient of this year's "Outstanding Volunteer Service Award".
Town Council Meeting—Wednesday, December 19th, 2007 at 7:00 p.m.
3
11/27/07 Minutes,Parks&Recreation Advisory Board
• Naranja Town Site agenda item (tentative)—discussion of the bond question for
November 2008.
Town of Oro Valley closed on the following upcoming holidays:
• December 25, 2007 (Christmas)
• January 1, 2008 (New Years' Day)
• January 21, 2008 (Civil Rights' Day)
4. COMMITTEE APPOINTMENT TO CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM (CIP)
TECHNICAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE (TAC)
This year the CIP TAC has changed and there will only be ten (10)people on the Committee and
three (3) Commissions represented which are Finance, Parks and Recreation, and Planning &
Zoning. The meetings will be shorter and the amount has been limited to $50,000 and above.
Some smaller dollar items will be dropping into the new capital reserve budget this year.
MOTION: Member Delaney MOVED to nominate Lyra Done as the PRAB CIP TAC
representative. Member Hurst SECONDED the motion. Motion passed, 6-0.
Member Delaney volunteered to be the backup CIP TAC representative.
1. APPROVAL OF SEPTEMBER 18,2007 REGULAR SESSION MINUTES
MOTION: Member Delaney MOVED to approve the minutes from the regular meeting on
September 18, 2007 as written. Member Hurst SECONDED the motion. Motion passed, 6-0.
5. CONSIDER SELLING OR SERVING ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES AT EVENTS
DESIGNATED BY THE TOWN—DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION
Ms. Reeder stated that Chair Ottley has requested that this item remain on the agenda until the
Board is prepared to move to a conclusion or recommendation to the Town Council. There is no
new information to report.
Vice-Chair Done suggested holding a study session before the January PRAB meeting to discuss
this item so that the Board may come to a consensus.
Ms. Reeder explained how this item developed:
1) There is an increase in the amount of alcohol related litter in the parks which indicates
that people are consuming alcohol in the parks. The Police Chief is advocating
regulation and use of liquor permits.
2) The Greater Oro Valley Arts Council asked the Town to consider the allowance of
wine/beer gardens at specified events at the parks.
3) Alcohol in public places is an issue that the Town should decide on in preparation for the
Naranja Town Site.
The current ordinance prohibits alcohol in public places.
13. PARKS & RECREATION DIRECTOR'S REPORT
4
11/27/07 Minutes,Parks&Recreation Advisory Board
Ms. Reeder reported that there was a trail access with stairs at West Lambert Lane Park which
has experienced erosion. The Public Works department informed Parks staff of future road
construction in this area. The stairwell leading to the street was unstable due to the steepness and
erosion and knowing that there was going to be construction in the area, Parks and Recreation
staff determined interdepartmentally to remove the stair access and bring it back to a natural
condition. Staff has recently received public feedback regarding this access because the
neighbors use this access and prefer not to use the park entrance on the street. Parks staff is now
reinstalling those stairs and will readdress the issue when the street construction occurs. The
repairs and restoration should be in place by the end of the week.
Gordley Design is gathering data regarding the Naranja Town Site. A tentative agenda item will
be before the Town Council to discuss and proceed with direction to staff regarding the bond
question in November 2008. On December 19t'' staff will be returning to the Town Council with
a$48M bond question. Staff will be discussing at that time the verification of the construction
numbers. An objective third party reviewed the numbers generated by the cost estimator who
worked for Burns Wald-Hopkins and the preliminary findings are that the construction numbers
were solid. Escalation is a possible issue.
6. CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS FOR FISCAL YEAR 2006-2007 AND
FISCAL YEAR 2007-2008—DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION
Ms. Reeder gave an update on the 2006/07 CIP projects. Parks has a $195,000 item for the
James D. Kreigh Park irrigation upgrade. Staff went out to bid and is planning to go to the Town
Council for the approval of that contract. The low bidder has been selected and the project will
begin January. The project should be complete by late spring.
The resurfacing of the cool deck is the other CIP project and staff is currently working with the
Procurement Administrator to determine the best way to approach that project.
The 07/08 CIP recommendations are due in mid-December. The dog park at Riverfront Park is
one project. Some items may be included in the out years in case they are not approved or
picked up and put on the Pima County Bond Election.
Ms. Reeder requested that the Board come forward with any project ideas. The Board is also
welcome to make recommendations of items to add to the budget.
7. FEES STRUCTURE UPDATE—DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION
MOTION: Member Evans MOVED to accept the preliminary Parks and Recreation cost
recovery pyramid as defined in the Study Session and approve it as presented with the
understanding that Parks and Recreation staff will return with a final draft for approval. Member
Delaney SECONDED the motion. Motion passed, 6-0.
8. UPDATE ON THE TOWN OF ORO VALLEY LEADERSHIP IN ENERGY AND
ENVIRONMENTAL DESIGN (LEED)
No update.
9. STATUS REPORT ON STEAM PUMP RANCH—DISCUSSION
5
11/27/07 Minutes,Parks&Recreation Advisory Board
Member Hurst reported that the Committee has the general consensus favoring plan C,
highlighting the two periods. The Committee wants to keep as many of the buildings authentic
to the period as possible and focus on education, displays, museums, etc.
Member Hurst explained that the following issues were discussed:
• The entrance being moved to the north to keep the center court free of automobiles.
• Native plantings from the late 1800's are in progress.
• What to do with the chicken coops. Options include having 4H raise chickens.
• Equestrian facility and if it should stay or move to the other end of the site where it was
in the late 1800's and if it should be kept to board horses or for trail rides, etc.
• Where to put an orientation center, possibly opposite of the roadway and come in from
Steam Pump Village and enter the main part of the site.
• Addition of an event center with a catering kitchen.
The Board discussed the issue that horses may be eliminated from the site due to concern of
contaminants from horses getting into the well in the next 10+years. Some people may be
concerned about any animals on the site due to the proximity to Steam Pump Village.
In response to a question, Ms. Reeder stated that there has been discussion of the Oro Valley
Historical Society being present on the property but there has not been discussion of GOVAC or
the Northern Pima County Chamber being on the property since the meetings have begun.
The Board discussed whether Steam Pump Ranch would be self supporting or subsidized.
Member Hurst stated that they are still waiting for the economic figures.
The group discussed the activities and attractions which would bring the public back to the site
after an initial visit.
The next public meeting is January 10, 2008.
10. STATUS REPORT ON THE NARANJA TOWN SITE DEVELOPMENT—
DISCUSSION
Member Delaney advised the Board that the Town Council may change the $48M amount to
$80M at the December Town Council meeting. Ms. Reeder stated that staff will provide the
information requested.
11. FRIENDS OF THE PARKS—DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION
Vice-Chair Done stated that she was impressed by the Oro Valley Community Foundation. She
suggested that a part of the projects with Friends of the Parks could be handled through that
Foundation. That would give people interested in being Friends of the Parks the ability to work
under a sub base of the Oro Valley Community Foundation.
Member Delaney indicated that the checks for the organization are getting dated and it is
possible that they need to be returned. Ms. Reeder agreed and stated that she will look into it.
12. BOARD MEMBER REPORTS
6
11/27/07 Minutes,Parks&Recreation Advisory Board
Vice-Chair Done stated that she is the liaison to the Finance and Bond Committee and she has
been attending their meetings and she feels that it would be beneficial if they appointed a liaison
to PRAB. It would assist in unification between the two groups.
14. FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS (The Parks & Recreation Advisory Board may bring forth
general topics for future meeting agendas. The Parks & Recreation Advisory Board may not
discuss, deliberate or take any action on the topics presented pursuant to ARS 38-431.02H).
The following items will be on the next agenda:
• Consideration of selling or serving alcoholic beverages at events designated by the Town
• Parks and Recreation Department user fee structure update
• Status report on Steam Pump Ranch
• Review of Agenda for Pima County Joint Advisory Board meeting
15. SCHEDULING NEXT PARKS & RECREATION ADVISORY BOARD MEETING
The next PRAB regular session is scheduled for January 8, 2008 at 6:30 p.m. in the Hopi
Conference Room located in the Development Services Building.
16. ADJOURNMENT REGULAR SESSION
Being that there was no further business before the Board; Vice-Chair Done adjourned the
meeting at 7:38 p.m. with no objections.
Prepared by:
Danielle Tanner
Senior Office Specialist
7